Sellers and Devlin JJ concurred.
9 A like principle was applied in Victoria in Regina v Chaouk (1986) VR 707, a decision which was applied in Regina v Emmett (1988) 14 NSWLR 327.
10 Although the English cases to which I have referred related to questions by the jury concerning a matter of law which touched upon the charges under consideration and although the Victorian and New South Wales case to which I have referred dealt with somewhat different subject matters to those under consideration in the present case, I am of opinion that the principle underlying those cases should be extended to communications by a jury concerning a matter which, on its face and in the absence of more detailed knowledge of the matter, may possibly be thought to give rise to a reasonable apprehension or suspicion on the part of a fair minded and informed member of the public that the matter may have a significance in relation to the trial or the proper and impartial performance of their duty by the members of the jury. In applying such principle, I am of opinion that, since the liberty of the subject is involved, the court should lean in favour of openness and revelation even in a marginal case.
11 On the afternoon of 21 February, 2002 counsel for both accused indicated that they proposed to seek a discharge of the jury the following morning. However, in the light of the evidence that has now been given by both jurors neither has formally made or persisted in such an application. Indeed both have indicted to the contrary.
12 It is nonetheless necessary for the court to consider the appropriateness of taking such a course or of taking some intermediate course.
13 A memorandum was prepared and transmitted to the relevant sheriff's officer, as a result of which the two jury members in question were sequestered on their arrival at court today. Each was asked to write down the precise nature of any event which was the subject of report and to advise, inter alia, if the matter had been discussed with other members of the jury. In one case the matter had been discussed; in the other it had not.
14 The test to be applied to the determination as to whether or not the jury as a whole or either or both of the jurors in question should be discharged, is not in doubt. It is objective and does not depend on the actual effect that the incident might have on the jury or juror or on jurors in question (R v Pearson [2000] NSWCCA 149 at para 32 per Foster AJA with whom Dunford J and Smart AJ agreed).
15 In Webb v Regina; Hay v Regina (1994) 181 CLR 41 the High Court considered a case in which, during the course of the trial, one of the jurors gave a bunch of flowers to a person at the courthouse with a request that it be given to the mother of the victim of the murder the subject of the trial. The High Court determined that the trial judge was correct in not discharging the jury and directing that the trial should proceed. Mason CJ, with whom McHugh J agreed, propounded the following test:
"...the test to be applied in this country for determining whether an irregular incident involving a juror warrants or warranted the discharge of the juror, or in some cases, the jury, is whether the incident is such that, notwithstanding the proposed or actual warning of the trial judge, it gives rise to a reasonable apprehension or suspicion on the part of a fair minded and informed member of the public that the juror or jury has not discharged or will not discharge its task impartially." (supra at 53)
16 Toohey J applied a like test (supra at 87, 88) and arrived at the same conclusion as Mason CJ and McHugh J.
17 I duly received the written material from the jurors in question, made the same available to counsel, together with a copy of the memorandum to which I have already referred. Then, in a closed court, questions were directed to the two members of the jury and an opportunity was given to all counsel to suggest to the court any subject matter on which they wished questions to be asked of the jurors by the court. This was done and such questions were asked.
18 The facts that emerged from the written material supplied by the jurors were as follows: the first juror (juror 008) explained the situation in which he had been involved as follows:
"On two occasions the accused's friends or relatives have travelled on the train with me, no conversation took place, however they alighted at the same stop (stop named). It is obvious that they live in the same suburb. Although nothing has occurred I felt I should report it."
19 When this juror was questioned he said that he did not believe that the events which he had reported did not interfere with his ability to render an impartial verdict.
20 The second juror, namely juror 018, gave a written explanation in the following terms:
"Walking out of court at the end of a day it would be nice if the members of the gallery are kept behind for a couple of minutes to give the jury enough time to cross the road. Having them stand outside the court on our way out creates a very uncomfortable feeling."
21 When this juror was questioned she indicated that the events to which her explanation referred had occurred on approximately every second day and that she felt no such uncomfortable feeling when the altered arrangements that were applied yesterday, that is 21 February 2002, were resorted to. She too did not believe that her ability to reach an impartial verdict had been compromised.
22 What emerges clearly from the explanations and the evidence is that: