1 GROVE J: These two applications for leave to appeal derive from circumstances which are to an extent common however the applicants were separately represented and their arguments were independent of each other. It was convenient to hear argument successively and in the presence of both applicants.
2 In July 2000 following numerous complaints from members of the public a police operation was mounted to investigate supply of prohibited drugs from residential premises at Bidwill. These were located two doors from a primary and pre-school. The operation included the use of electronic surveillance including, pursuit to warrant, telephone intercepts and listening devices. Undercover police were authorized to engage in "controlled operations" seeking to and purchasing illicit drugs.
3 The occupants of the premises included the applicants, Joanne Dineen (a younger sister of the applicant Kathleen Dineen) and several other family members including school aged children.
4 The applicants and Joanne Dineen appeared for sentence before Gibson DCJ at Penrith District Court, and on 27 September 2002 respective impositions of sentence occurred.
5 Mark Arthur Meres pleaded guilty on arraignment to one count of supplying a prohibited drug (methylamphetamine) on an ongoing basis between 20 April and 15 May 2001, contrary to s25A of the Drug Misuse and Trafficking Act, 1985. Unless otherwise stated, section references are to that statute. To be taken into account on sentence for that offence were four charges on a Form 1, two charges of knowingly taking part in the supply of amphetamines, one charge of possession of the same drug and one charge of goods in custody reasonably suspected of having been stolen or unlawfully obtained (a motorcycle).
6 He was sentenced to imprisonment for four years nine months with a non-parole period of three years, both sentence and non-parole period to commence on 6 December 2002, that date coinciding with the expiry of a sentence of twelve months imprisonment which he was required to serve for an unrelated offence. It should be noted that Meres had been in custody for six months prior to the commencement of that unrelated sentence and, as that custody was referrable to the current matters the sentencing judge expressly acknowledged an allowance of six months which was "owed" to the applicant. It is therefore appropriate to attribute a notional assessment of five years and three months to represent the head sentence.
7 Kathleen Dineen was presented on indictment charging one count of supplying a prohibited drug (methylamphetamine) on an ongoing basis between 4 April and 16 May 2001, contrary to s25A and, in the alternative, of supplying that drug on 4 April 2001 contrary to s25(1) and five further counts of similar offences contrary to s25(1) committed on 8, 14, 22 and 30 April and 16 May 2001. The prescribed maximum penalty for an offence in s25(1) is fifteen years imprisonment. The prescribed maximum penalty for an offence in s25A is twenty years imprisonment.
8 She pleaded not guilty to the count of ongoing supply but guilty to the alternative of supply as well as pleading guilty to the five further counts similar to the alternative. The Crown accepted these pleas of guilty in discharge of the indictment.
9 His Honour was asked to take into account nine further offences on a Form 1, eight charged supply of methylamphetamine and one charged supply of cannabis.
10 In the event, Kathleen Dineen stood for sentence on six counts of supplying methylamphetamine contrary to s25(1). On count seven (the offence of 16 May 2001) she was sentenced to six years six months imprisonment with a non-parole period of four years, both to date from 6 June 2001 upon which date she had been taken into custody. The Form 1 offences were taken into account in this imposition. On counts two and three (the offences of 4 and 8 April) she was sentenced to concurrent fixed terms of eighteen months imprisonment. On counts four and five (the offences of 14 and 22 April) to concurrent fixed terms of two years and on count six (the offence of 30 April) to a fixed term of three years. All the fixed terms were directed to commence on 6 June 2001.
11 Joanne Dineen was sentenced upon one count of ongoing supply of amphetamines (between 20 April and 16 May 2001) contrary to s25A and she was sentenced to four years imprisonment with a non-parole period of two years. Four further charges of supplying amphetamines (on dates between 11 April and 16 May 2001) contrary to s25(1) were taken into account on a Form 1.
12 All the offenders were habituated to amphetamines, however, they were suppliers in what his Honour described as "a busy and thriving operation". Some challenge to that observation was offered in a written submission on behalf of Kathleen Dineen when it was stated that it was worthwhile to look at the evidence of the undercover police to appreciate the "fairly loose" operation that it really was. It was contended:
"The usual scenario was that an undercover operative would attend at the subject premises and seek to purchase amphetamines from one or more of the offenders. On taking cash from the operative for the amphetamines, on the basis that the offender (s) had no money to purchase the amphetamines, one or more of the offenders would leave the subject premises either by pushbike or car and return a short time later with the amphetamines. It is clear on the evidence that the offenders had a supplier (s) nearby and rarely did they have the drugs required by the operative on the premises."
13 There was no finding about the cash liquidity situation of the offenders nor the source from which the drugs emanated. It may be mentioned for example that on 15 May Meres produced plastic bags of amphetamines from within the premises, one of which he then sold to an undercover operative receiving $170 in exchange. When arrested at the premises on 6 June he was in possession of a small satchel containing amphetamines. The facts are as consistent with the drugs being "warehoused" somewhere or with someone as being supplied by someone else. Be that as it may, I reject the submission that the operation was little different from that of "street dealers".
14 The correctness of his Honour's finding that it was a busy and thriving operation is demonstrated by the sheer quantity of intercepted telephone contacts. I accept that not every call would necessarily relate to drug supply but to a single telephone service in what gave the appearance of being a suburban dwelling about 3,500 calls were monitored in the period between 30 March and 6 June 2001. In particular, Kathleen Dineen was identified as agreeing to supply various quantities of drugs ranging from 1.75 grams to 14 grams. A Sergeant Clarke gave evidence, accepted by his Honour, enabling translation of argot into statements about quantities of particular drug. It was contended that his Honour erroneously referred to single dealings of amounts up to an ounce but, even so, criminality is not always to be measured by quantity (although in some cases, of course, it may be a principal factor and there are statutory scales of traffickable, commercial etc.) but in these cases it is the repetitive nature of illicit dealing, in the case of Meres, charged with ongoing supply and in the case of Kathleen Dineen the multiple instances of her conduct. His Honour's description of the offenders having gone "into business selling or supplying drugs cold bloodedly for reward" was manifestly accurate.