GROUND 1: ERROR IN ADMITTING TRANSCRIPTS
20 It is to be noted that there is no challenge made in this appeal to the primary judge's exercise of his discretion under s.138 of the Evidence Act, and there is no challenge made to the admission into evidence of the video and audio tapes: the challenge under this ground is only to the admission of the transcript of evidence before the Police Royal Commission.
21 Mr. Game SC for the appellant submitted that parts of the transcripts of evidence before the Police Royal Commission contained quotations of parts of the illegally-recorded conversations, and also statements of the substance of and summaries of such conversations. Accordingly, he submitted, they were evidence of the conversations within s.13(1)(a) of the Act. Furthermore, the conversations in question had come to the knowledge of the Commissioner (Wood CJ at CL), Counsel assisting (Ms. Bell) and the court reporters who recorded the transcript as a result of the use of listening devices in contravention of s.5 of the Act, within the meaning of s.13(1) of the Act. Accordingly, he submitted, all those persons were precluded from giving evidence of the conversations, and that included the production of a record of the conversations (s.12). The transcript of the Police Royal Commission was a record of the conversation, contributed to by Commissioner Wood and Ms. Bell and actually recorded by the court reporters, therefore it could not be given in evidence.
22 Mr. Game submitted that the transcript did not fall within any of the exceptions in s.13(2), apart from s.13(2)(d)(ii). The appellant, being one of the principal parties, did not consent (s.13(2)(a)), and the conversation did not come to the attention of any of these persons otherwise than as a result of the use of listening devices (s.13(2)(b)). On these matters, the onus lay on the Crown which asserted admissibility.
23 Mr. Game conceded that, as regards the second count in the indictment, the case fell within s.13(2)(d)(ii); and did not contend that any exercise of discretion under s.13(3) should go the appellant's way; but he submitted that the second count was knocked out by the second ground of appeal.
24 Mr. Barrett for the Crown submitted that the relevant transcript, namely that of 11 December 1995, was evidence not of the conversations but of what was said at the Police Royal Commission, this being relevant to prove both the falsity of the appellant's testimony of 7 September 1995 and also his lack of belief in the truth. Mr. Barrett referred to s.9 of Royal Commission (Police Service) Act 1994 (NSW).
25 He also submitted that, because the Royal Commission evidence was directly a result of information and evidence from Ms. Hart and only partly and indirectly for use of the listening device, it was rendered inadmissible by the Listening Devices Act: see R v. Downey (1992) 66 ACrimR 1.
26 In my opinion, it is important first to note that "private conversation" in s.13(1) means "any words spoken" in the circumstances set out in the definition; so what is being referred to is not the mere fact of the occurrence of a private conversation, or even just the whole or the substance of its contents, but extends to "any words spoken" during the course of the conversation.
27 In so far as the transcript of the Police Royal Commission for 11 December 1995 includes quotations from tapes obtained by use of listening devices, it is in my opinion fanciful to suggest that knowledge of those words by the persons using them (Commissioner Wood and Ms. Bell) or the persons recording them (court reporters) was other than a result, direct or indirect, of the use of the listening devices. It may well be that the fact of the conversations and their general tenor became known to Ms. Bell and Commissioner Wood, at least, through Ms. Hart; but at least the precise quotes used must have come to their knowledge, and through them to the knowledge of the court reporters, through the use of the listening device. Although it is not quite so clear, in my opinion, the same must apply to those questions which used the substance of parts of the conversations rather than exact words.
28 I accept the submission of Mr. Game that the appellant should not be disadvantaged because he did not insist that the court reporters be called at the trial, so if the evidence notionally given by the court reporters through the transcript is "evidence of the conversation" within s.13(1) of the Act, the giving of such evidence would be prohibited. The question thus is, is such evidence, namely the evidence of the court reporters through the transcript, "evidence of the conversation", that is, evidence of "words spoken" in the conversation.
29 In my opinion, in so far as the court reporters through the transcripts gave evidence of questions asked by Ms. Bell or Commissioner Wood in which words were quoted or the substance of parts of the conversation given, this is only evidence of questions asked and cannot be evidence of the conversation or of words spoken in them.
30 In so far as the court reporters gave evidence of answers by the appellant (which had to be understood by reference to the questions), this could amount to indirect evidence of the conversations and the words spoken in it, by way of admissions by the appellant. However, the question whether this material was therefore "evidence of the conversation" within s.13(1) must be considered in the light of the following two matters:
(1) The recordings themselves were already in evidence, and there was no suggestion that those recordings were otherwise than accurate or that there was any doubt about their authenticity.
(2) The substantial relevance of the transcript was not that it conveyed some of the contents of the conversations, but that it conveyed the appellant's evidence concerning such matters.
31 If the recordings themselves had not been in evidence, and if the Crown had relied to any extent at all on the appellant's admissions in order to prove the content of the conversations, I think the court reporters' evidence of admissions by the appellant could be "evidence of the conversation" within s.13(1). However, in circumstances where there was absolutely no issue about the authenticity and accuracy of the recordings themselves which were in evidence, where the Crown did not rely at all on the appellant's admissions to prove the content of the conversations, and where the transcript was led for a different purpose, the recordings were not in substance "evidence of the conversation". Accordingly, in my opinion, this ground of appeal fails.
32 I note that these reasons depend to some extent on the circumstance that the recordings themselves were in evidence: as noted, that was not challenged below, except on the s.138 basis, or here. However, I should record that in my opinion there is another question which would, if the point were taken, need to be considered before a recording derived from illegal use of a listening device is admitted into evidence through one of the participants in the conversation. The only way the participant can lay the foundation for the admission of the recording is to say that he or she has listened to it and that it constitutes an accurate record of the conversation. However, the giving of evidence to that effect would in my view involve a response to a leading question, giving rise to the matters dealt with in s.37 of the Evidence Act.
33 "Leading question" is defined in the dictionary of the Evidence Act as follows:
"leading question" means a question asked of a witness that:
(a) directly or indirectly suggests a particular answer to the question, or
(b) assumes the existence of a fact the existence of which is in dispute in the proceeding and as to the existence of which the witness has not given evidence before the question is asked.
34 However identification of a recording of a conversation is raised with a witness who had no part in making the recording but did take part in the conversation, what in substance is being done is to have the witness assent to the conversation having occurred precisely as recorded; so inevitably a particular answer is suggested. The witness is not being asked what was said or even asked whether the conversation was in general terms to a certain effect; but rather, whether the very words recorded were in fact spoken. Accordingly, if objection were taken (s.37(1)(c)), then generally leave under s.37(1)(a) would be required, requiring consideration of the matters referred to in s.192 of the Evidence Act. The same discretionary considerations as supported the decision under s.138 may well have justified the giving of leave under ss.37 and 192 in this case; but it is my opinion a separate question.
35 As suggested in the earlier Court of Appeal decision, a participant could give evidence of the conversation using the record to revive memory. However, if this was to be done in court, leave would be required under s.32 of the Evidence Act, again bringing s.192 into play.