THE DEFENCE CASE OF THE APPELLANT SUTTON AT THE TRIAL
44 The appellant Sutton did not give evidence at the trial. However, the tape recording of his electronically recorded interview on the night of 2-3 August 2001 was admitted into evidence.
45 Sutton had attended the police station at about 10 pm on 2 August 2001 with Cornelissen (question and answer 24). He had been advised by an officer of the Aboriginal Legal Service not to say anything but had told police that he wanted to give his version of what had happened (question and answer 53). He had told police that "I'm only a witness" (question and answer 61), a witness for Cornelissen (question and answer 72).
46 In his answer to question 74 Sutton gave a narrative account of what he said had happened. His answer was as follows:-
"Well, we just pulled up over there and Shaun, Shaun….. and he wasn't there at this time. And then we, we've then left and come back, it was only, what, 10 minutes or something. We parked up on the, I'm not sure Medlyn Street just there, parked up near the corner there, 'cause we didn't want to take his car down near his place because reckoned he might get into it, or, I don't know, smash it, or kick it, or something like, I don't know. And we walked down there and Shaun's gone up to the door while I waited, I was out there with …. And, yeah, he just got Tony to come to the door and Tony's come out the front and had a swing at Shaun and that's when I come over and, yeah, they've Shaun's got, sorry, Tony's got Shaun on the ground and he was on top of him punchin' him, so I just, I grabbed, grabbed Tony by the back of the jumper and I was pullin' him off and that's when people come runnin' out of the house, like sayin' 'Stop it and stop it', and that. And then, yeah, got him off, he was standin' up and then Shaun's, Shaun got up and then he just went for Shaun and Shaun punched him and I just thought he knocked him out and we've walked off. That's all that's happened".
47 When asked what had been the purpose of going to see the deceased, Sutton replied "I didn't have no purpose, mate, I was, was only there for Shaun. Shaun wanted me to go round there" (question and answer 85).
48 When asked why Cornelissen had gone to see the deceased, Sutton replied:-
"He was workin' somethin' out with him, mate, they, they haven't been getting' on for a while, or somethin', just, just went down there to see him ". (answer to question 94 )
49 When asked what had caused both of the appellants to go to the deceased's house, Sutton replied:-
"Mate, Shaun just asked me to go round there with him, mate, like, he wanted to work somethin' out, that's what I just said, mate". (answer to question 102)
50 In his answer to question 123 Sutton gave another narrative account of what he said had happened:-
" Yeah, And then he's, yeah, he's just walked out, mate, 'cause I was, he's just walked out and then fuckin', I don't know what was said, and then he's just, like, went at Shaun, hit Shaun and Shaun's hit back and he's just, I'm not sure if he's tackled or Shaun went to the ground after the hit or somethin', but then he was on top of him. So, I just ran over, mate, and just pullin' him off. They all seen me, I didn't, I didn't hit him or nothin'. I only just grabbed him like that there and I was just pullin' him off, pullin' him off him. And then they was all carryin' on like, like, 'stop it, stop it, stop it', like, and then he's, when he's let him up, but he's, Shaun's got up too after he'd, like, he got up first, 'cause he was on top, got up and then Shaun's got up and then he's just went for Shaun, like went at him. And then Shaun's just hit him, hit him on the, in the face area somewhere and then he's just fell back on the ground and just thought he was knocked out".
51 Sutton said that a punch by Cornelissen had been "only a little punch".
52 Question and answer 145 were as follows:-
"Q. He didn't you didn't ask before you went around as to what, you know, what you're going to sort out here, what's.. ?
A. No, Well, I just, I just, well, they're brothers, mate, I, well, it's not as if we was goin' round to some fellow he hated, or anything like that. I didn't think, like, he was goin' round there for trouble until like, Shaun said he'd park his car up on the corner, mate and like he though that, like if things didn't work out, mate, like, I don't know, he was gunna jump into his car or I don't know".
53 Sutton was aware of one, but only one, previous fight between Cornelissen and the deceased.
54 When asked how he felt about what he said had happened, Sutton said:-
" ..because they were fightin', I just, I was glad that, well, not glad, just he'd be right, mate, I'm, I was just glad that Shaun didn't lose the fight, which I'm not glad at all now, at all. I was, that, gees I don't know what to say for that, mate. Like, I was glad that Shaun didn't lose the fight, but I wish that … didn't happen, it's makes me like, it makes me, like, I don't know how Shaun would be feelin', it's his brother". (answer 168)
55 Sutton said that all he had done was to try and grab the deceased off Cornelissen, "'cause he was on top of Shaun" (questions and answers 169, 170).
56 Sutton said that all he had done in the fight was to pull the deceased off Cornelissen and that he himself had no injuries. Monique Byrne had pulled Sutton back, when Sutton was attempting to pull the deceased off Cornelissen.