"128 Privilege in respect of self-incrimination in other proceedings
(1) This section applies if a witness objects to giving particular evidence on the ground that the evidence may tend to prove that the witness:
(a) has committed an offence against or arising under an Australian law or a law of a foreign country, or
(b) is liable to a civil penalty.
(2) Subject to subsection (5), if the court finds that there are reasonable grounds for the objection, the court is not to require the witness to give that particular evidence, and is to inform the witness:
(a) that he or she need not give the evidence, and
(b) that, if he or she gives the evidence, the court will give a certificate under this section, and
(c) of the effect of such a certificate.
(3) If the witness gives the evidence, the court is to cause the witness to be given a certificate under this section in respect of the evidence.
(4) The court is also to cause a witness to be given a certificate under this section if:
(a) the objection has been overruled, and
(b) after the evidence has been given, the court finds that there were reasonable grounds for the objection.
(5) If the court is satisfied that:
(a) the evidence concerned may tend to prove that the witness has committed an offence against or arising under, or is liable to a civil penalty under, an Australian law, and
(b) the evidence does not tend to prove that the witness has committed an offence against or arising under, or is liable to a civil penalty under, a law of a foreign country, and
(c) the interests of justice require that the witness give the evidence,
the court may require the witness to give the evidence.
(6) If the court so requires, it is to cause the witness to be given a certificate under this section in respect of the evidence.
(7) In any proceeding in a NSW court:
(a) evidence given by a person in respect of which a certificate under this section has been given, and
(b) evidence of any information, document or thing obtained as a direct or indirect consequence of the person having given evidence,
cannot be used against the person. However, this does not apply to a criminal proceeding in respect of the falsity of the evidence."
192. The judge, after referring to s 128(2) of the Evidence Act 1995 held that Chatto had reasonable grounds for not wishing to "give evidence about the circumstances in which he decided to include and then exclude the claim that Mr McIvor was present, including about conversations he had with Mr McIvor before or after the making of the statements".