Ms Nixon's evidence
85Ms Nixon had failed to file a statement in the costs proceedings per se. She relied on correspondence she had forwarded to the Commission dated 23 February 2012 in which she contended the following:
(i)she was never the applicant in either of the proceedings. She argued that the USU was the applicant and it was only ever proposed that she be a witness in the proceedings relating to both claims;
(ii)the statements of Messrs Williamson & O'Sullivan relate to negotiations between the Council and the USU officials and she was not mentioned in any of the negotiations;
(iii)she was unaware of any of the alleged conversations, emails, negotiations or telephone calls between the Council and officials of the USU as contained in the statements; and
(iv)she was informed that she did not have to attend IRC proceedings as the USU was the Applicant in both proceedings.
86It was pointed out to Ms Nixon that she had not called any of the union officials to give evidence on her behalf in relation to the above contentions. She was given the option of either relying on the contents of her letter of 23 February 2012 which would be treated as submissions from the bar table and not hold as much weight as the Council's sworn evidence or give her evidence from the witness box in which case she would be cross-examined on that evidence. The following exchange took place between the Bench and Ms Nixon earlier in the proceedings:
COMMISSIONER: Ms Nixon, ..... Is your case today that the union never put any of those discussions to you, any offers to you, any offers of settlement by the respondent, is that what you say?
APPLICANT: What I am saying is, is that in this statement [Williamson] it refers to all these conversations and things like that.
COMMISSIONER: Yes.
APPLICANT: I am unaware of a very high amount of these particular conversations which I didn't even know were being held.
COMMISSIONER: Well, you have seen the statements, you have had the statements, this particular statement, it says 27 January of this year.
APPLICANT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER: What attempts ... have you made to call the union to give evidence here today? You've called people from the council.
APPLICANT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER: About conversations you've had, but you haven't made any attempt, this is a [costs] application against you, very serious matter, we are talking about a few thousand dollars, and you haven't made any attempt to get the union here to refute these statements that you've known about since 27 January.
APPLICANT: Well, because--
COMMISSIONER: If you've known about these statements, what attempts have you made to contact the respondent or Mr Williamson on behalf of the respondent to try and settle the matter?
APPLICANT: For me to contact Mr Williamson?
COMMISSIONER: Yes. I mean if you're saying that the union has spoken on your behalf and then you sacked them because they didn't resolve the matter, you've sacked them, you have had no representative since the union stopped representing you, what attempts have you made to try and settle the matter?
These are matters that you have to think very seriously about. These are serious proceedings here today, but if you're saying to me that these have not been made - these offers have not been put to you, well, Mr Williamson is saying, "I've put them," you've known that since January.
APPLICANT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER: If you have no one from the union to give evidence to refute them here today, and I am not granting an extension of time to do that either.
APPLICANT: No, that's okay.
COMMISSIONER: Then you have to be prepared to go in the witness box yourself on oath and say that you have not received any of those offers and be cross-examined. Are you going to do that?
APPLICANT: Well, I will have to if that's the case.
COMMISSIONER: Yes.
APPLICANT: The only reason is, is that it's not negative about the union, I am not being negative about the union and it wasn't an issue of me calling them, you know, because I'm still friends with them. The issue is, is that I think everyone got so wrapped up with what was happening and being very frustrated--
COMMISSIONER: Well, it's a matter between you and your representatives.
APPLICANT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER: Offers were made by the respondent. Evidence has been given of the dates and times of those offers.
APPLICANT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER: When they were given, what responses they got, et cetera. They have done what is required of them. You will have to refute those things and if you haven't got the union then [you are] your best witness.
APPLICANT: Okay.
COMMISSIONER: You have to go on oath and be cross-examined on those - on every single one of those offers that were put.
87There was a further exchange with Ms Nixon as she struggled to run her case:
COMMISSIONER: Ms Nixon it comes down again to what I told you earlier this statement [Williamson] was sworn on 24 January 2012, it would have been filed at the time when the filing schedule was required to be met and that was what 27 January. You have had that since 27 January we are now in July. You had enough chance to talk to the union, find out from the union if this occurred or did not occur and prepare your case.
APPLICANT: The issue which I said before was, is that when I got all these documents I don't know what was said, I don't know and --
COMMISSIONER: Well that's just it, you've got these statements unless you can refute them they stand. To refute them you need to have gone and talked to your union and found out whether these are true or not true, so that you can formulate the questions to ask the witnesses.
APPLICANT: Or I can get in the witness box later on.
88Ms Nixon decided to give sworn evidence. She contended that she was currently a carer for her uncle and working part-time. She stated that both applications were filed by the USU "in good faith" and were not in any way, shape or form vexatious or frivolous. She stated that the applications were lodged after obtaining professional advice from the union's legal team.
89Ms Nixon pointed out that in the section 84 Unfair Dismissal application, the USU was the actual applicant and she was intended to be a "witness" in the proceedings as evidenced by the affidavit dated 9 September 2011 which she prepared for the hearing which did not ultimately proceed.
90Ms Nixon noted that the Council originally sought that costs be awarded against the union as the actual applicants and then decided not to pursue that course, "You can't go after the shark then decide that it is too hard and decide to go the goldfish!"
91Ms Nixon pointed out that neither of the statements of the Council's witnesses indicate that she had involvement in any of the settlement negotiations nor give any indication that she knew what was going on.
92During cross-examination, Ms Nixon confirmed that she was still friends with the named union officials. She agreed that there was no reason why they could not be called to give evidence on her behalf but she had not taken any steps to arrange it.
93She confirmed that she was in the role of Union Delegate over the last two years of her employment representing the interests of the members to management.
94Ms Nixon agreed that the role of the union is to represent the interest of its members. If the member has a problem, then the union is going to listen to what that member says is the problem and what the member wants in relation to a resolution of that problem, subject to weighing up amongst its internal and external advisers as to whether to take on a particular matter. Despite that knowledge of the role of the Union, Ms Nixon was loathe to admit that the union was acting on her instructions during the period of negotiations prior to, and post, her dismissal as is evidence by the following cross-examination:
PERIGO; Q. Ms Nixon, if you in your situation where you're job is in jeopardy, before the termination of your employment, you were instructing them in relation to the investigation into your continuing employment, weren't you?
NIXON; A. What do you mean "instructing," like what was I doing?
Q. You were talking to them about the issues you were having with council?
A. About this Court matter?
Q. No, before your dismissal there were discussions between the council and the union?
A. Yes.
Q. Part of the reason those discussions took place, Ms Nixon, I am putting to you, is because you got the union involved in the matter, didn't you?
A. I don't know if I got them involved, as soon as they were aware of what was happening--
Q. But, Ms Nixon, they were there acting on your behalf, weren't they?
A. Well, I don't know if - because they were the applicant so--
Q. No, Ms Nixon, that is not the question I am asking you, I am asking you before your dismissal when there were discussions about what possible outcomes there may be, the union were discussing your matter with the council on your behalf, weren't they?
A. Well, I've already said that some of the matters that they were discussing and things, it couldn't have been on my behalf because I don't have knowledge.
Q. Ms Nixon, they were discussing what was going to happen with your continuing employment, weren't they?
A. With my?
Q. Continuing employment?
A. I think there was some conversations about the continued like when I was still employed there.
Q. They were doing that on your behalf, weren't they, they were your representative in those discussions?
A. Well, you said "those discussions", like which discussions because I've already said I don't have knowledge on some of the - until I actually got the statement there were things said in these documentations that I don't even know.
Q. Ms Nixon, what I am putting to you is before you were dismissed there was a series of discussions about your continuing employment and one of them involved settlement and I am putting to you that the union in that discussion involving settlement, which was 15 July 2011, they were there on your behalf, weren't they?
A. They were - in discussions they were obviously discussing me and they were there representing me, however, a lot of the content I don't know what was said.
Q. But, Ms Nixon, you just agreed with me, didn't you, that they were there representing you?
A. Well, I just said that they were representing, you know, the--
Q. Thank you. So if your union is representing you, they're doing that because you've given them a particular set of instructions that you want them to follow in your case?
A. No. If you're the union member you're not telling the union what to do, they were advising me, that's why you pay your union fees, that's why you're in a union.
Q. So, Ms Nixon, they provide you with advice and guidance, yes?
A. (No verbal reply).
Q. That's right, isn't it, they provide you with advice and guidance on a range of matters?
A. Yep, yeah, that's right.
Q. Ms Nixon, you also gave instructions for the union to act for you once you'd been dismissed, didn't you?
A. Well, it was continued on, it was all--
Q. So they continued their representation of you, didn't they?
A. Through the whole thing, yeah.
Q. Again, they were acting on information that you were providing them?
A. Well, I can't say if they were acting on what I provided them because they could have been doing a lot of negotiation and different things--
Q. Ms Nixon, you were telling them about things that were happening to you, weren't you?
A. Is that when I left or--
Q. All the way through?
A. They were aware of what was occurring, yes.
Q. But they were aware because you were telling them, weren't they, you mightn't have been the only one telling them, but you were telling them what was happening, weren't you?
A. If they asked certain different questions or, you know, wanted to know information about the - you know, what was happening, yeah, I discussed and liaised with them.
Q. Ms Nixon, you told them what you wanted, didn't you?
A. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I told them what I wanted.
95Ms Nixon was taken through the section 84 application. She agreed that the second page of the Application Form contained a box which required information in relation to the "Personal Details of the Employee (Applicant)". She reluctantly agreed that it was her name that was inserted as the Applicant in Question 1.
She also agreed that on page 5 she was asked in Question 30 whether she was being represented and the box against the option "Union" had been crossed and the name of the union official, Mr Rudi Oppitz, had been provided including his contact details in Question 31.
96In relation to the relief sought, the three options of reinstatement, re-employment and monetary compensation had been ticked. Ms Nixon pointed out that it was the USU's idea to tick all three boxes pointing out to her that it was "a starting point" for negotiations.
97Ms Nixon was taken to the transcript of the proceedings before Connor C on 2 November 2011 during which Paul Wesley stated that Rudi Oppitz told him that the offer was put to Ms Nixon by telephone on 25 October and she had rejected it. Ms Nixon kept insisting that she did not know Mr Wesley instead of responding to the question as to whether or not the union was representing her. Following persistent cross-examination, Ms Nixon grudgingly admitted that she knew that Mr Oppitz was attending the proceedings on 2 November 2011 and therefore the union was representing her.
In relation to that settlement offer, she stated that she could not remember the exact date or which offer it was.
Q. But Mr Oppitz put an offer to you, didn't he, that had been made by the council?
A. My recollection is, is that there was quite a few different types of negotiations and I do remember being contacted and sort of told how the negotiations were going and what, you know, what had transpired sometimes, you know, don't know.
Q. But, Ms Nixon, let me take you to this specific instance, so we're talking about the offer around 25 October, that's the offer of seven weeks, as I understand, that's right isn't it?
A. Is it, seven weeks?
Q. Yes. So, Ms Nixon, Mr Oppitz put that offer to you, didn't he?
A. Well, I'm not really sure because I can't recollect, you know, that exact amount, dates and times.
Q. Mr Oppitz reported back that you've declined the offer, so you told Mr Oppitz that you weren't interested in the offer of seven weeks, hadn't you?
A. I do recall the offer of seven weeks whenever it was, like date or times or what not, and that I did decline it.
Q. You did that through discussions with your union representative, didn't you?
A. Yeah, I think Rudi rang me and said that was their offer and that basically the union's position and advice was not to accept it.
98Ms Nixon agreed that she had not attended the first conciliation and directions hearing before the Commission on 11 August 2011. Despite her earlier protestations, she admitted that the union had attended on her behalf and had discussed the matter with her prior to the conference. She said she had not attended because, firstly, she was informed by the union that she did not have to attend because the union was going to negotiate on her behalf; and secondly, even though, technically, it was her application, she was not "running the show" and she would go along with whatever decision her legal advisers made. She could not confirm that Council had made an offer of five weeks nor could she confirm that the Union made a counter offer of 26 weeks. She stated that she was not sure about any offers made by Council or counter offers made on her behalf by the union on that occasion..
99Ms Nixon also accepted that she did not attend the second conciliation conference on 18 August 2011 and agreed that the union was again acting on her behalf.
100She confirmed, once again, that she did not attend the conciliation conference on 24 October 2011 for the same reason as previously. She confirmed that she knew it was another opportunity to try and resolve the proceedings. She confirmed that Mr Oppitz had called her "at the end of the day or the next day or when he possibly could" to advise her about what had actually happened.
101Ms Nixon agreed that Mr Oppitz would tell her if any offers were made. She recalled that she was advised about an offer of seven weeks but could not recall at what stage of the proceedings that offer was made. She agreed that she had rejected the offer:
PERIGO; Q. You rejected all offers made by the council, didn't you?
A. I rejected the offers that I received or, you know, told - told to me by the union as I deemed them unreasonable and that I worked full-time, I'd been with the council 16 years, I was earning well over 70,000 and a car....
102Ms Nixon denied that she had no interest in the section 84 proceedings or that the proceedings were of little importance to her as it was only one of a number of proceedings she was pursuing against the Council. She stated that she had discontinued the proceedings because the relief under that section was capped at 26 weeks.
Q. Ms Nixon, it's a matter though that you knew would cause the council to spend money defending it, wasn't it?
A. Sorry?
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Q. The question to you was, you knew that the council would have to spend money to defend this application?
A. Well, of course they're going to have to spend money to defend it, if they chose to, but they wouldn't reasonably come to negotiation.
103It was noted that Ms Nixon had filed her witness statement in the section 84 arbitration proceedings on 9 September 2011 and Council had filed a range of evidence around about 12 October 2011. It was put to her that she had waited until all the evidence had been filed before she discontinued the proceedings because she wanted to put the Council to as much expense as possible and inconvenience Council as much as possible by expending time and energy in preparing the material in response. That proposition was denied by Ms Nixon who insisted that she wanted the matter resolved and "the union were doing all the negotiations for me".
104Ms Nixon admitted that she was aware that offers were made by the union on her behalf on or about 18 July and 19 July that Council pay her 31 weeks' pay and 40 weeks' pay respectively in settlement of the claim. She was also aware that the offers had been rejected.
105Ms Nixon confirmed that she had held discussions with Mr Golledge prior to her dismissal but was unsure about an offer by Council on 20 July to settle for 10 weeks' pay although she could not rule out that such an offer may have been made.
106Ms Nixon admitted that it was her decision not to accept Council's offers albeit it was on the advice of the union.
107She denied that the offer to settle for 31 weeks pay, five weeks in lieu of notice, $1900 in back payment for on call allowance and a transfer of her SIM card was made at her request. Ms Nixon insisted that although Mr Golledge had spoken to her about putting forward that offer, it was the USU that had come up with the proposal as a reasonable settlement to throw on the table. She acknowledged that she had not told Mr Golledge not to put forward that offer. She denied that when she was talking to Mr Golledge on 20 July that she became a bit upset, hysterical and hung up on him. Ms Nixon confirmed that Mr Golledge had called to let her know that the offer had been rejected by Council.
108After much prompting, Ms Nixon agreed that Mr Golledge had advised her of Council's counter offer of five weeks made on or about 28 July and confirmed that she had rejected the offer.
109Ms Nixon refused to confirm or deny the offer made by the union on 15 July to settle the matter for two years' pay plus a car; the offer made on 19 August 2011 by the Council to pay her 10 weeks' pay; a counter offer made by the union on or about 19 October of 15 weeks' pay. She claimed that the Union was merely trying to get her the best deal it could and therefore there were some offers she knew nothing about.. She said she had rejected those that she knew about ".... on the grounds that they're not reasonable"..
110It was pointed out to Ms Nixon that despite ticking the box that she was requiring reinstatement to her former position, that relief did not feature in any of the offers that were made on her behalf. She had not once asked for her job back. In response, Ms Nixon reverted to her previous stance that she was unaware of the negotiations held between the union and the Council in relation to her matters.
111Despite lengthy and persistent cross-examination, Ms Nixon refused to deny that she was not actively pursuing reinstatement claiming that her understanding of the negotiations was that the union was trying to have her reinstated in addition to all the other offers.
PERIGO. Ms Nixon there is no offer made. Ms Nixon let me put it this way, there is no offer made is there, that has a reinstatement option?
COMMISSIONER: It does make sense Ms Nixon stop evading the question. Listen to it and answer it, it has been asked in a number of different ways.
WITNESS: Well as far as I'm aware the union delegates that were representing me told me that they had negotiations and spoke about reinstatement.
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Q. In terms of these proceedings in this Commission, and this application, you weren't actively seeking compensation either, were you?
A. I was seeking compensation, but because of the, you know, --
Q. Ms Nixon you walked away with absolutely nothing, didn't you?
A. Yes.
Q. So Ms Nixon if you weren't actively pursuing reinstatement and you weren't actively pursuing compensation then the proceedings must have been brought for some other reasons mustn't they, such as to embarrass the council?
A. No.
Q. To cause the council inconvenience?
A. No.
Q. Or to cause the council expense?
A. No.
112Ms Nixon repeatedly stated that she did not know Mr Paul Wesley and therefore could not say whether or not he was suggesting in his submissions to Connor C, on 2 November 2011, that the Council's offer was reasonable or otherwise.
113In re-examination of herself, Ms Nixon summed up her position as follows:
A. Basically the negotiations and every single conversation in relation to all of the different dates that were mentioned I was only informed of snippets or you know, I didn't know the whole content of different conversations I was certainly told that it was in relation to getting my job back, the conversation, and I accepted that from the people that were negotiating with council and that the conciliation dates and all the different dates that were set I do live five hours away and I was told that they would handle it that they would look after it on my behalf you know that they would go for it, you know. And that I left all the negotiations basically up to the union they have the experience and know what to do, and that it was not my intention of anything else except for to get my job back and if that wasn't possible for remuneration and it just did not and could not be negotiated at all.
114At the conclusion of her evidence, and in response to a question from the Commission, Ms Nixon confirmed that, as delegate, she was conversant with union affairs and industrial rights and was aware that she could appear before the Commission via teleconference. It was put to her that throughout the hearing no mention had been made that she had attempted to chase up the union herself proposing instead that the union sometimes took days or weeks to get back to her after a conciliation conference to advise her of the outcome. Ms Nixon, for the first time indicated that she would call the union, and in particular Mr Greg Golledge who conducted the negotiations in the latter part, to find out the outcome of the conferences:
A. Yeah I used to ask that, like when they had negotiations or conciliations I would try and get in contact with Greg Golledge and did a lot of the negotiations in the latter part, and I would ring up immediately like straight away if he told me you know, I'm going to be doing this or whatever and I did follow up and try and ask you know what was happening with all my negotiations all the time. I am a single mother, I had no job. I had no job no money, I was like speaking or ringing constantly.