HIS HONOUR: Yes, but right now he's got no urgent need for medical intervention. He can wait until he's ready, he wants to wait until he's out of custody before he has it done?
COUNSEL: Yes, sir.
HIS HONOUR: And that might be some time...
COUNSEL: It's also a matter, sir, that it might be that Your Honour is prepared to have regard to how that matter is going to impact upon how he serves his sentence.
HIS HONOUR: But he could have it done now, couldn't he, if he wanted to?
COUNSEL: If he wanted to.
HIS HONOUR: He has a cynicism or fear about gaol medical services, is that what it comes down to?
COUNSEL: In my submission, on the basis of the material it's understandable....
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COUNSEL: So the issue of his medical condition is a live one to the extent at least that he's dealt with it whilst he's been on remand, whatever might be the case now insofar as what further treatment might be required, assuming that it is stable at the moment, my instructions are that, yes, he would wait until he was released before having any further surgical intervention but what that means is that ultimately that is going to delay ongoing rehabilitation in the sense that if the transplant had been successful in the first place he'd be well on the way to have a functioning hand which might in turn then flow into his ability to take up opportunities in the future. As I say he was ten days off completing an apprenticeship as a mechanic and that's one of a series of significant events in his life where - Your Honour sees perhaps what I might call a negative view of the world that plays out of Mr Joblin's report.