The learned sentencing judge in imposing the sentence which she did appeared to express the view that, before taking into account the applicant's plea of guilty an appropriate sentence would have been eight to nine years imprisonment. She then reduced that to eight years imprisonment to take into account the guilty plea. Unsurprisingly counsel for the applicant at the sentence hearing did not question the estimate of eight to nine years as the sentence which would have been appropriate but for the guilty plea, that being the range put up by counsel for the Crown. And counsel for the applicant in this Court, Mr Maher, submits that eight years before allowing for the guilty plea was appropriate as a sentence which should then be reduced and, on that basis, he has submitted that an appropriate reduction for the guilty plea would be to six years imprisonment or, alternatively, he submitted a recommendation for post prison community based release after serving three years.