16 On the first issue, namely, whether the persons to whom the complainant was speaking were "counsellors", the relevant passages in the primary judge's reasons for judgment on this issue, apart from those quoted above, are as follows:
"While I have been able to peruse the material in order to make my determination I cannot give examples here of the type of material and references that it contains s that in itself could be a breach of what are private conversations however innocuous, as even the daily round of life may be a matter of personal comments not meant for the public arena.
Whilst the current legislation was not in existence at the time I note the references in the case of R v Young (1999) 46 NSWLR 681 in the judgment of James J to the fact that there is an underlying concern that in a counselling relationship built on confidentiality, privacy and trust, which enables a victim to explore major issues concerning her sense of safety, privacy and self-esteem, the knowledge that details of a victim's conversations with her therapist may be used against her in subsequent criminal proceedings can inhibit the counselling process and undermine its efficacy. His Honour also referred to the argument that allowing an accused and defence counsel to have access to all the victim's thoughts, feelings, insecurities and the recounting of painful past experiences as revealed in counselling sessions may exacerbate this trauma.
I feel that the above are relevant in this context before me now in applying the legislation and considering the objection to the production of the Mission Australia material before me now.
It could also be a matter for argument as to the qualifications or status of the persons to whom the confidences are given. The legislation clearly does not limit the qualifications of the person confided to such as to a medical or suchlike practitioner or even a certified counsellor or social worker. The provision uses the words 'to another person .. in the course of a relationship in which the counsellor is counselling, giving therapy to or treating the counselled person for any emotional or psychological condition'. I am satisfied that this description is sufficient to cover the officers of Mission Australia who were communicating with Ms Wheeler in these notes.
I consider that they are clearly private confidences given to persons who are giving counsel and therapy in the course of a relationship of counselling for emotional or psychological conditions."
17 There are difficulties in these passages. First, if the material contained "private conversations" which were "innocuous" taking place as "part of the daily round of life", they might well not be communications made in the course of a relationship in which the counselled person was being counselled, receiving therapy or receiving treatment for an emotional or psychological condition.
18 Secondly, the reference to James J's judgment is a reference to a quotation he made (46 NSWLR 681 at 736 [297]) from the Attorney General's Second Reading Speech in introducing the Evidence Amendment (Confidential Communications) Bill on 22 October 1997. That Bill, when enacted, inserted Pt 3.10 Div 1B into the Evidence Act. That legislation excluded evidence of "protected confidences". "Protected confidence" was defined as meaning a protected counselling communication made by a person against whom the sexual assault offence had been or had been alleged to have been committed. "Protected counselling communication" was defined as meaning a communication made by a person in confidence to another person ("the counsellor") in the course of a relationship in which the counsellor was treating the person for any emotional or psychological condition suffered by the person. The Attorney General's words were not directed to the meaning of "treating" or "emotional or psychological condition" in the definition of "protected counselling communication". They throw even less light on s 148(4)(a) in the instant legislation.
19 The first argument propounded on behalf of the defendant was that the primary judge should not have upheld the claim which the complainant made in the absence of proof by evidence tendered in open court of the conditions set out in s 148(4)(a). I would reject that argument. While counsel for the defendant is correct in saying that to claim the privilege without evidence led in open court is unsatisfactory, the fact is that the primary judge was entitled to look at the documents and in an appropriate case the documents subpoenaed by themselves could establish the pre-conditions for the operation of s 148, at least where, as here, their authenticity was accepted.
20 The second argument propounded on behalf of the defendant was as follows. It was submitted that the legislation requires that there be a diagnosis, a client relationship, and a communication for the purpose of providing treatment or therapy. It was submitted that there must be a nexus between the diagnosis, the treatment and the therapy on the one hand and the relationship on the other. A person who is merely a sounding board or is merely offering a sympathetic ear is not enough. If it were enough, every person to whom a sexual complaint is made would fall within the section.
21 The solicitor appearing for the complainant answered that argument in the following way. He contended that the subpoenaed material spoke for itself, it was lengthy, it was said to be deep and it was said to go into the complainant's life and background to a substantial degree. The submission rejected the proposition that there needs to be a diagnosis, it was sufficient that there be observable an emotional problem which might well be distinct from a medical problem. The submission concentrated in particular on the word "counselling" which, it was submitted, should be broadly defined as an act or a series of items of conduct designed to help someone through a crisis.
22 A third controversy was raised before this Court between the parties. It was raised by the solicitor appearing for the complainant. He submitted that even if this Court concluded that the privilege did not exist or the conditions for its claim had not been made out, inspection should be refused on the ground that the material lacked substantial probative value. This was not argued below and in my opinion the argument should not be entertained in this Court. Related to it was a contention that if the Court concluded that the privilege had not been made out, the matter should be remitted to the trial judge to determine the extent to which inspection of the material should be permitted. I would reject that for the same reason, namely, that the contention, if to be made at all, should have been made before the primary judge.
23 Turning then to the difference between the defendant and the complainant in relation to the second argument propounded by the defendant, it seems to me that the meaning of "counselling, giving therapy to or treating the counselled person for any emotional or psychological condition" must depend significantly on the meaning of "any emotional or psychological condition". An emotional condition is a state of consciousness turning on emotions like pleasure, pain, desire, aversion, surprise, hope, joy, sorrow, fear or hate (as distinct from cognitive and volitional states of consciousness) which reveals or reflects some defect or illness or disease or abnormality. Similarly, a psychological condition refers to a particular condition of health - a state of health which is poor or abnormal or diseased or otherwise defective from the emotional or psychological point of view. Psychology is the science of mind and of mental states and processes; a psychological condition is a state of mind in which there is some defect or illness or disease or abnormality in the victim's mental states and processes. Therapy is the curative medical or psychiatric treatment of diseases, disorders and defects and is administered by a therapist, being a person trained to give therapy by physical, psychological or psychiatric methods. To treat an emotional or psychological condition is to deal with it by examination, diagnosis, application of remedies, care and otherwise in order to relieve or cure it. While "counselling" can have quite wide meanings, and the argument propounded on behalf of the complainant appealed to them, in this context the word means advising with a view to relieving or curing an emotional or psychological condition from which the counselled person is suffering. In this sense a counsellor must possess some substantial skill acquired by training or experience. Accordingly, the expression "counselling, giving therapy to or treating the counselled person for any emotional or psychological condition" refers to the provision of expert advice and procedures by persons skilled, by training or experience, in the treatment of mental or emotional disease or trouble. The expression does not include persons who merely seek to assist others suffering from an emotional or psychological condition. A confidante or friend or relative does not, by reason of those circumstances alone, fall within s 148(4)(a).
24 The argument for the complainant involved reading the words "counselling" and "emotional condition" very broadly. While in some contexts those words can be so read, in the present context I do not think they bear a sufficiently wide meaning for the complainant's purposes.
25 The evidence establishes no more than the following. After leaving home on 20 June 1997, the complainant has been residing in premises supplied by Mission Australia as part of what is known as a "Sydney City Mission Supported Living Program", sometimes called "SLP", which is a "program that provides accommodation for persons who cannot live at home or have nowhere to stay" (complainant's 24 July 1999 statement to the police, paragraphs 3 and 4). The complainant has had a social worker allocated to her. She "is a youth support worker who is there for support for the kids in the program if required (she does not actually provide counselling as such, but she can assist in obtaining the services of qualified counsellors if required)" (complainant's 24 July 1999 statement, paragraph 6). That social worker appears to be the author of many of the notes produced on subpoena. Those notes reveal a constant pattern from June 1997 to April 2000 of the social worker and other persons discussing the complainant's problems and, in the light of what she said, making suggestions for their solution. When medical problems arose, they suggested that she see doctors of various kinds for various purposes. When issues of reconciliation between her and her family arose, they proposed and arranged for family counselling at Family Therapy Clinics. When the question of whether the complainant should receive individual counselling arose, there was discussion about how the Mission Australia officers would arrange for it to take place. There were also discussions about her visits to anxiety clinics conducted by mental health teams.
26 The point is that even assuming that the relevant communications were made in confidence (which is questionable) and even assuming that the complainant was suffering from "any emotional or psychological condition", it was not the persons to whom she spoke at Mission Australia who were giving her counselling, therapy or treatment, but other persons. The officers at Mission Australia merely arranged for those other persons to give the counselling, the therapy or the treatment, or listened to the complainant's accounts of her visits to those other persons.
27 The relationship between the complainant and the persons at Mission Australia to whom she spoke was that they were providing her with accommodation - she could not live at home and she could not afford other accommodation. They looked after her in a general way, but not in a way which fell within s 148(4)(a).
28 It is not necessary in the present case to consider the extent to which the "counsellor" must be relevantly trained or experienced. In Jaffee v Redmond 518 US 1 (1996), the Supreme Court of the United States recognised a privilege between therapist and patient. The majority (Stevens J, with whom O'Connor, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas, Ginsberg and Breyer JJ agreed) said at 15-17 that the privilege applied to confidential communications made to licensed psychiatrists and psychologists. They also said that it applied to communications to licensed social workers - but only "in the course of psychotherapy". Social workers may well provide mental health treatment. But in my judgment the social worker or workers involved here did not provide treatment to the complainant: rather, they made arrangements for others to do so, or listened to the complainant's accounts of that treatment.
29 Accordingly, in my judgment, the complainant has not discharged the burden which rests on her of demonstrating that the relevant documents contain "protected confidences".
30 In due course I will propose that inspection be ordered. It is important to note that this has no implication for what use may be made of the material at the trial. Whether the material is admissible in evidence at the trial will be a matter for the trial judge. What use can be made of it in cross-examination will also be a matter for the trial judge. It would be wrong for defence counsel to use the material to harass or humiliate the complainant, though I stress that I am not making any suggestion that Mr McClintock intends to do any such thing or would do any such thing. The point is simply that no case has been made out to prevent inspection of the material. What happens at a later stage will depend on different criteria.