R v Le & Anor [1995] QCA 479
[1995] QCA 479
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Court of Appeal (Qld)
Decision date
1995-10-27
Before
Before Pincus J, Thomas J, Williams J, Gleeson CJ, Kirby P
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Judgment (32 paragraphs)
I have read the reasons for judgment of Thomas J. The circumstances suggesting that the sentence imposed on Tho Le is high are that he has no previous conviction relating to dealing in heroin or any similar drug, that he pleaded guilty, and that, as Thomas J says, Tho Le's main purpose was to feed his own drug habit. That he has an 8 year sentence with no parole recommendation suggests that a person not having these three characteristics - for example, one who has been dealing in similar quantities of heroin mainly or wholly for profit and who pleaded not guilty - would, for a first offence of dealing in heroin, receive a sentence substantially higher than 8 years. It is doubtful whether the authorities give substantial support to that proposition.
A question which arises is the extent to which the Court is entitled to sentence one such as Tho Le, convicted of carrying on the business of trafficking in heroin, other than on the basis of the sales proved against him; they produced less than $3,000 per month gross and it seems likely that only a small amount of that was profit. On these figures Tho Le would appear to have been a minor dealer, but one may reasonably infer that the sales to the undercover officer were only a part of his business. May such an inference properly be taken into account? In a recent heroin importation case, Savvas [1995] HCA 29; , the High Court had to consider the scope of the principle of De Simoni at 389, that no-one can be punished, in the sentencing process, for an offence of which he has not been convicted. Savvas was convicted of two conspiracy offences, conspiring to import heroin and conspiring to supply it; but the sentencing judge took into account against him findings which the judge made as to "a large number of facts relating to the conduct of the appellant and his co-conspirators, pursuant to the alleged conspiracies"; see per Gleeson CJ in the decision of the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal at 175. The sentencing judge made detailed findings as to the amounts of the drug involved (178) and explicitly sentenced on the basis that pursuant to the conspiracy Savvas had been involved in the importation of particular quantities of heroin. Kirby P (dissenting) concluded that the judge was in error, in that the sentence went beyond punishment for the offences of which Savvas was convicted (185). Here the question is whether the sentence can take into account, not dealings which are not charged, but dealings not specifically proved.