Facts
3 I received an agreed statement of facts. At about 5 pm on the day in question, Andrew and four friends went to Sydenham railway station to catch a train to Campsie. His companions were three young men, Robert, Marlon and Louis, and a young woman, Katherine. The offender and three young male companions, Brett, Syed and Agus, were also on the platform. Some members of each of the two groups knew one another because they lived in the same area or had been attending school together. Apparently, Andrew and the offender did not know each other, although, as will be seen, Andrew had recently heard of the offender.
4 The male members of each group stared at one another. Andrew said to his companions words to the effect of, "I don't like them." He said that there had been some conflict or tension between two other friends of his and the offender. Those other friends, again using their first names only, were Sebastian and his girlfriend, Lara. Lara knew the offender.
5 It seems that, only a few days before the fatal incident, Sebastian had gone overseas for a holiday. Shortly thereafter, Lara had gone to the offender's home to "hang out" with him and some other friends. While there, she sat on the offender's lap and they kissed each other. One of the other young people who were there recorded the event on a mobile phone camera. When Sebastian was told about this incident, and that there was a video of it, he ended his relationship with Lara. Andrew became aware of the situation, although Sebastian himself had not told him about it.
6 The train to Campsie arrived and both groups boarded it. Andrew's group entered the fourth carriage from the front, and the offender's group the third. Both groups were able to see each other and continued to stare at each other. As the train moved off, Andrew said "I hate coming home with a ripped shirt after a fight, I get killed at home." Shortly afterwards he also said, "It is either going to happen here or Punchbowl."
7 The train stopped at Hurlstone Park station, and one of Andrew's companions, Louis, alighted from it, saying, "I don't want nothing to do with it." Andrew then said to the remainder of the group, "Let's walk down." Katherine remained in the carriage, but Andrew, Robert and Marlon began to walk through the carriage towards the offender's group. As they did so, Andrew said to his companions, "If I get fifty bucks off it I will give it to you."
8 The offender's group, having seen Andrew and his companions moving towards them, began to move away from them towards the front of the train. As they did so, the offender said to his companions, "Get ready for a fight." The train stopped at Canterbury. The offender's group stepped out of the train, as did Andrew's group. However, both groups got into the train just before it moved off. As the train travelled towards Campsie, the offender's group moved into the first carriage and to the front boarding area of that carriage. Andrew's group followed them.
9 When the train arrived at Campsie, Andrew said, "If they say anything to me or anything, we can just hit them once and then, like go away, you know, don't do anything harsh." Robert said, "Whatever… We'll talk to them first", and Marlon said, "Just talk." The three of them then alighted from the train and walked along the platform to the front boarding doors of the first carriage, where the offender's group was standing. Other passengers alighted, leaving the offender and his companions in the carriage vestibule adjacent to the open boarding doors.
10 Andrew then rushed into the vestibule and, with his fists raised, moved directly towards the offender. The offender had his right hand in the right side pocket of his trousers and, as Andrew moved towards him, he removed a knife from that pocket.
11 Having moved up close to the offender, Andrew grabbed or grabbed at him, and began to punch or throw punches at him, a number of times. As he did so, the offender stabbed him several times with the knife. The struggle lasted only a few seconds, but the result of the stabbing was two track wounds which penetrated Andrew's chest, his heart and other internal organs.
12 Andrew stumbled backwards out of the train onto the platform and fell to the ground, bleeding heavily from the wounds to his torso. In the meantime, there had been scuffles between other members of Andrew's group and the offender's group. At this point, however, Andrew's companions realised that something had happened to him and they left the train to assist him. The train driver, having heard the disturbance, saw Robert and Marlon standing on the platform with their fists raised, yelling, "I'll get you" and words to that effect. They attended to Andrew, and Marlon used his mobile phone to call an ambulance.
13 By then the train doors had closed, and the offender's group began to move back through the carriages towards the rear of the train. The offender removed and carried the white hooded top he had been wearing at the time of the stabbing. He tried, unsuccessfully, to persuade a passenger to take the knife and hide it.
14 He and his companions made their way to the fourth carriage, where Katherine was. By that time, blood could be seen on his arms and, although he was carrying the knife wrapped in his white hooded top, it remained clearly visible. He approached Katherine and said to her, "I stabbed the fob one." As he said this, he placed the knife and its sheath into her bag, which was open. She said, "What do you mean?… they are my friends."
15 The offender and his companions then continued towards the back of the train. Katherine was unable to leave the train because the doors were locked. However, although she was crying and distressed, she made her way to the front carriage and was allowed to leave through the driver's compartment. She then joined Andrew and his companions. She removed the knife and sheath from her bag and dropped them on the platform.
16 Police arrived, and located the offender and members of his group in the fourth carriage. The offender was taken to the platform, where he was spoken to by Detective Senior Constable Rogers.
17 Asked by Detective Rogers what had happened, the offender said, "I stabbed him." After being cautioned, he explained the circumstances, saying, among other things:
"I thought we were going to be rolled because we got off the train at Canterbury and those other guys followed us. We got back on the train and headed to Campsie. The other guys were giving us filthies."
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"We were all in the last carriage at Campsie. We got in a fight and I got punched. When I was getting hit I pulled out my knife and stabbed him."