58 I find Dr Giuffrida's detailed review of the underlying facts and of his interviews with the offender valuable because his opinion, based upon the facts and the interviews, suggests explanations for events that at first seem to defy explanation.
59 All five interviews took place after the conclusion of the trial. Although there was then no question about the offender's responsibility for killing the children she dealt with Dr Giuffrida throughout as though she was not responsible. Dr Giuffrida noted in these words her matter-of-fact recounting of events-
I asked Mrs Folbigg about her emotional reaction to Caleb's death which she described as heartbreaking and shocking. I noted that tears came to her eyes naturally at this point and her emotional response to this seemed genuine.
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Her affect was particularly remarkable in that whilst she related comfortably and would often smile appropriately, there was always a somewhat blunted, distant even remote quality to her ability to relate. There were parts of the interview where she was able to engage somewhat warmly and more responsively, although this was always fleeting.
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Although she showed tears and sadness briefly on two occasions in relation to discussing the deaths of two of her children, there was a remarkable inertness of emotional response in these discussions. Equally I was unable to elicit any symptoms suggestive of the reliving, either in the forms of dreams or flashback type experiences of the trauma of the deaths of any of her children. I thought this was highly significant given her otherwise graphic descriptions of the actual events of their deaths. One might have expected in a woman who had suffered the trauma of the deaths of four children to have been tormented, indeed tortured by reliving type experiences associated with feelings of intense grief, anxiety and depression. All of these symptoms and the associated affective response was either absent, blunted or attenuated.
60 I received much the same impression when I looked at and listened to the long video-taped record of the interview the offender had with Detective Senior Constable Ryan. Although she showed some emotional reaction almost at the end of the interview when she was asked whether she had killed her children, her attitude throughout was much as Dr Giuffrida described during his interviews. I thought the offender expansive, voluble, chatty, almost detached for the most part. Her appearance was quite out of keeping with the gravity of the occasion. When asked about the meaning of the entry of 14 October 1996 she gave these unconvincing answers to these questions-
Q. Why wouldn't you get a fourth chance?
A. We were having trouble with me falling pregnant. Whether it be the stress and us trying so hard, I don't know, but it took quite a while. Something that sort of never happened with Sarah and never happened before.
Q. But why do you think that fate and the man upstairs have decided that you don't get a fourth chance?
A. I don't know. Maybe I just thought three was s'posed to be our limit. Maybe I thought fate had, you know, that that was it.
Q. Why do you say, And rightly so I s'pose?
A. Again, along the lines back then, I was still thinking to myself that not trying enough or my version of being responsible had something to do with that. Yeah, I can't really say much more.
Q. What's your version of being responsible?
A. Just the thoughts of was I diligent enough? Was I watching? Was I listening? Was I, should I have walked in two minutes earlier, or should I've been somewhere else or done something else or spoken to someone else or got help from someone else? The list just goes on, it's just a never ending sort of thing.
Q. What were your mistakes and terrible thinking?
A. Just the frustrations that I might have felt with Pat, and the occasional battles of will that I would have had with Sarah. To me that, looking back at that time I thought that was a terrible way of thinking. I kept telling myself that that shouldn't have happened. Yeah, so that's sort of what I meant by that, it wasn't…
Q . Did you ever feel as though that you hated the children?
A. Never, nuh. I don't, I know I've come across my versions of what I think atrocious parents are, watchin' them in plazas beltin' their kids till they're red, and hearin' about other parents that have done this to their kids or humiliating and embarrassing them in public and all the rest of it. To me, that's just not socially acceptable sort of behaviour, and I always wonder whether they actually really want their kids or do they hate their kids to turn around and do that sort of thing? But no, I've never, never hated my children. How can you hate a child? They're so, they're just there, they're beings and they're yet to be developed and older. What they turn out like as adults is up to the people that they're with.
Q. What do you mean by, Obviously I'm my father's daughter?
A. …my natural father is just a total big loser to turn around and to do what he did, stuffin' up his own life, stuffin' up my life, stuffin' up anybody they come in contact with. To me, that's just a loser in general. So I was thinkin' along the lines of am I a loser? Is it just not meant for me to, I was very sort of down on myself in certain areas but not in others back then, so.
Q. Tell me about your dad.
A. He, which I found more information out just recently which doesn't help his case any in my eyes, as far as I'm concerned. He killed my mother by stabbin' her 20 odd times. This is supposed to have been over who had me when and where and why. And my natural family was responsible for hidin' me all over the place 'cause he turned out to be not a very nice sort of man. I just found out recently that he was actually one of Lenny McPherson's major hit men sort of thing, he was his right hand lieutenant man, used to go and do debt collectin' and all that sort of thing. So yeah, and I just regard anyone who could go for a life like, and be the sort of person that he was.
Q. O.K Just getting back to this, obviously I'm my father's daughter. What was your version of …
A. I was thinking maybe I was a loser of some kind that sort of was destined to have some sort of tragic life of some kind, but it is a passing thought. I sort of didn't, I tried not to let it dwell or anything, and. But that was more of a recrimination of him rather than me in general.
61 Dr Giuffrida found the diary entries revealing. He thought that they were the writings of a greatly tormented and exceedingly disturbed woman. He noted the prevailing theme of intensely depressed mood, expressions of worthlessness and low self-esteem and repeated references to feelings of rejection and abandonment by her husband, family and friends.
62 As the evidence shows, those feelings were irreversible and resulted from the effects upon her of the experiences she had undergone as a little child.
63 Dr Giuffrida noted the ambivalent feelings of the offender towards pregnancy and motherhood. She approached childbirth with feelings of intense anxiety and the daunting prospect of trying to bond to her baby, fearing that she would be challenged beyond her capacity to care for the child and overwhelmed by the task. He drew attention to the diary entry of 25 July 1996 and the frightening thought of having a baby and being left alone. The entry of 9 August 1996 contained a reference, in a portion which I have not extracted, to some minor illnesses the offender had suffered followed by the observation-
If I was superstitious I'de take it as a sign - Not to get pregnant & that my body rejecting the idea because it's just not ready?
64 Dr Giuffrida is of the view that the diary entries well demonstrate that the offender suffered intense feelings of shame and guilt over the death of the children. He thinks that the second part of the diary note of 11 June 1997 that I have extracted above is a good indication of the degree of torment that she was suffering. However, he observes, she did everything she could to suppress and contain her feelings of guilt, shame and remorse.
65 Dr Giuffrida thinks that the entry of 25 August 1997 poignantly describes the offender's inability to bond with her first three children. A remarkable thing about the entry is that in it the offender records her realisation that she loves Laura and says that she has bonded with her and wishes to protect her. Sadly, the bond was not strong enough to protect her child from her.
66 I accept the opinion of Dr Giuffrida that the overall theme of the diaries is of a woman always coping at the margins of her capacity to bond, relate to, provide for and care for her children, a woman easily roused to panic and readily defeated by any perception on her part that she might fail to provide for her children.
67 I set out part of Dr Giuffrida's long diagnosis-
Whilst I do not think Mrs Folbigg suffered from a psychotic level of depression, that is to say the state accompanied by the development of psychotic phenomena such as delusional ideas, hallucinations or a serious form of thought disorder, it is nonetheless clear to me that her state of depression was serious enough and persistent enough to have strongly contributed to a state of mind that led to her killing her children.
I said earlier that Mrs Folbigg is a woman of probably at least average, if not above intelligence, although not having achieved her potential educationally. There is therefore no evidence of developmental disability.
I said at the outset that women who cause the death of their children very frequently suffer from the most serious kind of personality disorder. The most common type of severe personality disorder encountered is of women who show marked features of the borderline personality disorder or dependent personality disorder or more commonly a combination of borderline and dependent personality disorder. Less commonly one finds women with serious antisocial personality disorder, many with the core features of psychopathic personality disorder. I should say in Mrs Folbigg's case that there was remarkably little to implicate any of these serious personality disorders. She certainly shows none of the usual features of borderline personality disorder nor in particular of psychopathy. In relation to the latter, there is a very significant absence of antisocial conduct or behaviour in adulthood, although there is some evidence of conduct problems in childhood in the form of two episodes of stealing. There is no criminal history or antisocial behaviour in adulthood. In fact in many respects Mrs Folbigg has been remarkably conventional in terms of her lifestyle and interests and if anything had very ordinary and conservative aspirations. Despite her difficulties in her marriage, she persisted with it and continued to contribute to the family welfare in the sense of always working when she could. There is therefore very significantly a remarkable absence in terms of the historical features or the core criteria for psychopathy.
I have commented in my mental state examination and numerous others have commented on Mrs Folbigg's emotional detachment and indeed the blunted or attenuated capacity to grieve the death of her children.
I spent a good deal of time taking a very detailed history of her relationship with her children and her response to each of their deaths. That response was characterised by an almost total absence of normal grief and bereavement. For a woman to lose a young child and then to lose four children suddenly is an intensely traumatic experience and it is almost invariably the case that the mourning and grieving process is both profound and long lasting. Such women often develop grossly pathological symptoms particularly of severe depression.
Although it is clear that after the death of each of her children, Mrs Folbigg became depressed in the sense of becoming emotionally blunted and withdrawn, there was in each case an extraordinary absence of any of the normal mourning or bereavement signs. Given that each of the children died suddenly and assuming they died by her own hand and I presume by smothering, this would for any woman be an intensely traumatic experience and would almost invariably result in symptoms of a post traumatic stress disorder, that is a state accompanied particularly by acute anxiety, depression, usually gross cognitive impairment and most of all intense reliving phenomena in the form of flashback type experiences of the time of death of the child or of terrifying nightmares (or) the death which would be usually sufficiently intense to wake the woman from sleep, usually accompanied by symptoms of an acute panic attack with palpitations, sweating, tremor, hyperventilation and so on. As far as I could determine, Mrs Folbigg did not appear to experience any of the normal symptoms of grief or mourning, nor did she reveal any of the symptoms that I would expect of post traumatic stress disorder in these circumstances.
I must say that this is a very significant phenomenon and I should attempt to explain this as far as I can.
The clearest phenomenon is the lack of the capacity for bonding or attachment of Mrs Folbigg to any of her children. Her attachment to each of the children such as it was, appears to have been of a practical and mechanical kind, devoid of any sense of loving or passion. I might say that also seems to be equally true of her relationship with her husband and with her foster mother.
The question arises in my mind as to how to account for this apparently inherent incapacity. I think the clues to this can be identified in Mrs Folbigg's earliest life experiences. It is clear that in her first 18 months of life that she is highly likely to have been brought up in a highly dysfunctional and probably emotionally, physically and possibly a sexual abusive relationship. It is highly likely that her father Thomas Britton, who had a history of assault and malicious wounding and who ultimately killed his wife, was abusive to his wife in the childs first 18 months of life. It seems likely that Mrs Folbigg would have been exposed to such violence.
It also seems to be clear that Mrs Folbigg's mother was unable to care for her child and gave the child to her sister and her brother-in-law to look after for periods of time. My best guess in all of these circumstances is that Mrs Folbigg herself as a child was probably neglected and probably traumatised. There is some indication from the reports from the Department of Community Services at the time that she may have been subject to sexual abuse.
The evidence that Kathleen Folbigg was seriously disturbed when she came to live with her aunt and uncle when she was 18 months old is compelling. It would seem abundantly clear from all of the reports available from the Department of Community Services that the child was severely regressed. It is significant that she is described as being of low intelligence and having trouble being taught the most basic requirements of hygiene, acceptable manners and behaviour. Given that we now know that Mrs Folbigg is of at least average, if not above average intelligence, the description of her level of cognitive development at that stage is, I believe, highly significant. When she was tested by a psychologist on 4 August 1970, she was described as being remote, speaking little, not responding to conversation and otherwise restless, inattentive and non cooperative. She is described as a very disturbed little girl with various behavioural difficulties, aggressive to other children and not responding to the usual social and emotional demands placed on her. This level of regression and cognitive impairment in a child of 18 months to 3 years would strongly suggest to me that the child had been severely traumatised in her first 18 months of life.
What is of even greater significance to me is a 3 year old child who is said to have a preoccupation with her genitals and repeatedly tries to insert various objects into her vagina. This is evidence of a very disturbed child and I would take the fact she was inserting various objects into her vagina as prima facie evidence that she has been seriously sexually abused in her first 18 months of life. The behavioural disturbances were also characterised by "severe temper tantrums" with screaming and crying incessantly for reasons which do not appear to be clear at the time. I would take all of these behavioural changes together as evidence that the child was severely traumatised at the time.
There is abundant evidence in the literature of early childhood development that children who are neglected and who suffer serious sexual and physical trauma and neglect, suffer a profound disturbance of personality development. Given the likely trauma suffered by this child at the time, it is very highly likely that she herself failed to experience any true bonding or attachment to her own mother. The fact that her mother gave her up to her aunt for periods of time before then retrieving her would reinforce that view. I note that after she was cared for by her aunt and uncle that her behaviour appeared to deteriorate further and that she was aggressive to other children and apparently destructive in the home. She continued to masturbate herself and as far as I could determine from the reports probably continued to have a preoccupation with her genitals.
The history available from the Department of Community Services file is that Kathleen Folbigg remained an exceedingly difficult child and it was only with the long passage of time that her behaviour became more tractable.
I believe that what happened to Kathleen Folbigg in her first three years of life was that she suffered a profound and probably irreversible impairment of her capacity to develop any meaningful emotional bonding or attachment and that this impairment contributed in some part at least to her total inability to relate, care for and protect her own children.