the sentencing proceedings
4 The charge on the indictment specified a period as commencing on 1 January 2000 and ending on 25 July 2001 as the period over which the offence was committed.
5 The prosecution evidence was put before the sentencing judge in the form of what was described as "a three folder brief". This consisted of statements of witnesses, recordings and transcripts of recordings of telephone intercepts, surveillance records and statements, including videotapes, and photographs. Put shortly, the Crown case was that, at 9 Telopea Street Punchbowl, over the period identified in the indictment, an organised commercial enterprise involving the sale and supply of cannabis was carried on, and that the applicant had a central role in its operation. Although the applicant pleaded guilty to the charge of supply, there was, nevertheless, a significant dispute as to the role he played. Accordingly, a number of witnesses were called to give oral evidence. The sentencing judge watched, and was taken through, a body of videotape evidence, in some of which the applicant was depicted. Evidence was also called on behalf of the applicant. In all, the evidence was given over five days in May 2003.
6 Having heard and seen the evidence, the sentencing judge made findings of fact concerning the applicant's involvement in the enterprise. Those findings were in the following terms:
"The Crown alleges that the offender controlled this operation and was the principal in it. Whether that was so in an overall sense, that is to say taking into account the indictment period and the period before that, I am unable to say beyond reasonable doubt.
The profits generated from this business must have been very significant. What happened to them I have simply no idea. However, I am able to conclude beyond reasonable doubt that during the indictment period, the offender had the day to day control of the business. He was often physically present at number 9 even if he did not live there. If he did not live there, he certainly spent a lot of time there. The business was conducted, not simply from the garage at number 9 Telopea Street and the driveway, but also from inside the house as well.
In addition to sometimes selling cannabis himself, the offender was directing the runners who sold it in shifts from about 9.00 am each day until 10.30 or 1.00 o'clock at night. What the offender did, I find, was highly organised and very commercial. It was also systematic, protracted and a flagrant breach of the criminal law. It involved thousands of sales of cannabis. It involved the employment of juveniles to sell cannabis. It involved the accepting, in a significant number of cases, of stolen goods to pay for cannabis which, in my view, accounts, at least in a large part, for the long list of stolen goods in the schedule to the Form 1. The business was conducted week in and week out, month in and month out. It may be that Shadi Derbas, in fact, started the business. It may be that during the indictment period, Iyman Derbas, in gaol, did have some proprietorial interest in the business, however, I do not need to make exact findings about that matter.
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What is clear beyond doubt, in my view, is that the offender played a high level part in the operation of this business during the indictment period."
7 Shadi Derbas is the applicant's brother. Iyman Derbas is his cousin.
8 The applicant challenges these findings of fact. The grounds of appeal as filed are pleaded as follows:
"Ground 1: His Honour erred in concluding that during the indictment period the applicant had the day to day control of sale of cannabis from 9 Telopea Street, Punchbowl.
Ground 2: The overall sentence is manifestly excessive having regard to the relevant issues in the case for the purposes of sentence."
9 At the hearing of the application an additional matter was raised concerning the manner in which the sentencing judge dealt with the Form 1 offence. In that regard, his Honour said:
"Having regard to the gravity of this offence and making a small allowance for the goods in custody matter, bearing in mind that that matter only carries a maximum sentence of six months, in my view, the appropriate starting point for this sentence, having a maximum penalty of ten years, is seven years' imprisonment."
10 This gave rise to a further challenge with which I will deal below.