Chan's relationship to Siregar: the hold
207 Chan's evidence about the cargo hold was recorded in the transcript thus:
"Q. Just one question Mr Chan before I move through the rest of the next day, whilst you and Man Chai, Mr Chen, were in the cargo hold repacking the blocks, did anybody come down to the compartment to the cargo hold at any time?
A. No-one came down.
Q. Are you sure about that? Please think carefully.
A. Someone looked down from above, but no-one came down.
CROWN PROSECUTOR: Your Honour, the Crown makes a further application under section 38 of the Evidence Act and I alert your Honour and my learned friends to page 41. The statement of 19 March 1999. Second paragraph.
HIS HONOUR: … [Have you got any objection to that evidence being led? It's the second paragraph on that page.
[COUNSEL FOR SIREGAR]: Oh well your Honour, if she wants to get another version.
HIS HONOUR: I take that as being no objection?
CROWN PROSECUTOR: Yes, I take it as no objection.
HIS HONOUR: Very well, I give you leave under section 38(1)(c).
CROWN PROSECUTOR: Q. Mr Chan do you remember telling police in March of last year when you gave your long statement, that's some months after your arrest. Then on one occasion during the six to seven hours of packing Siregar came down to the compartment to have a look at the engine. Do you remember telling the policemen that?
A. He didn't come to the front.
Q. I didn't ask you that Mr Chan. Please listen to my question carefully. Do you recall telling the policemen that Mr Siregar came down to the compartment to have a look at the engine?
A. I recall I said that.
Q. Where in the process of the six or seven hours that you were working did he come down to the compartment and you might say the first two hours, the second hours, the third two hours or toward the very end. Can you help please?
A. I didn't pay attention to the time, but I think it should be in the middle."
208 Examination in chief then resumed as follows:
"Q. Mr Chan, will you have a look at photograph 29 please, part 1 of Exhibit F. Are you able to say whether when you climbed in and out of the cargo hold the night that you were working there with Mr Chen whether you climbed in and out on the right hand side of the cargo hold as it's shown in this photograph where the metal runs out or the left hand side as shown in this photograph?
A. He's got to climb inside the speedboat and go towards the end.
Q. I understand. How do you get into the speedboat? Do you climb down the metal internal ladder or some other way?
A. Through that hatch hole coming down towards the end of the speedboat, walking towards the front and then down to that metal thing towards the front.
HIS HONOUR: He is pointing to something in the picture. Would you turn around and hold up the picture for me.
Q. What are you pointing to?
A. From the back to go down and so from the end of the speedboat walk towards the front and then climb down to this metal thing.
HIS HONOUR: He is actually saying that he used the speedboat as a form of ladder.
CROWN PROSECUTOR: I understand that your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: That is that he came down on to the aft end of the speedboat, walked around it and got down from there.
CROWN PROSECUTOR: Q. When Mr Siregar came down to the cargo hold did you see how he entered that area?
A. At that time I was in the speedboat, I was inspecting and fiddling with the engine, he climbed down and looked at the engine with me, together.
Q. Will you answer my question please. Did you see how Mr Siregar climbed into the cargo hold?
A. When I was at the back of the speedboat I saw him climb down through the hatch into the speedboat.
Q. Where were you when he climbed down through the hatch into the speedboat?
A. I was in the speedboat.
Q. What were you doing in the speedboat?
A. At that time the other people were sorting things so I went to look at the engine and see how they were wrecked.
Q. What other people were sorting things?
A. Man Chai.
Q. Anyone else there Mr Chan?
A. That's all, just Man Chai picking up things.
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Q. Where were you when you saw Mr Siregar climb down into the cargo hold?
A. At the back of the speedboat.
Q. What were you doing there?
A. Because the engine was wrecked very badly.
Q. Yes?
A. So I was using a torch to assist inspecting the engine?
Q Where was Man Chai?
A. In the front of the compartment?
Q. Was there anybody with Man Chai, assisting him, at the front of the speedboat?
A. No.
Q. Do I understand you to say that half way through the six to seven hours of unpacking you left Man Chai and took a torch to the speedboat motor to look at it?
A. Yes.
Q. And do I understand you to say that it was coincidentally that at that time that Mr Siregar joined you to look at the speedboat?
A. No he stuck his head from the hatch looking down and so I asked him to come down to assist looking at the engine.
Q. What did you and Mr Siregar do when looking at the engine?
A. That the engine was all wrecked and I think what you call the losso (as said) was all twisted and so he shook his head and went back up.
Q. Was it still dark at this time?
A. I think so.
Q. Was the area where Man Chai was working still illuminated by artificial light?
A. Yes."
209 In cross-examination by Siregar's counsel Chan adhered to his evidence that Siregar had come down into the hold. The cross-examination appeared to be directed to shaking that evidence rather than shaking the evidence that someone had looked down. Thus this evidence was given:
"Q. In relation to that you were asked this by the learned Crown Prosecutor. 'Just one question Mr Chan before I move through the rest of the next stage. While you and Man Chai, Mr Chen, were in the cargo hold repacking the blocks, did anybody come down to the compartment to the cargo hold at any time'. Remember that question?
A. Yes.
Q Your answer was 'No-one came down', correct?
A. Yes that's what I said then.
Q. Then you were asked 'Are you sure about that, please think carefully, you said [someone] looked down from above, no-one came down'?
A. I said that then.
Q. And that's the fact isn't it Mr Chan?
A. I recall that while working I asked Siregar to come down to look at the engine."
210 That is, the cross-examination was seeking to establish the fact that someone looked down but that no-one in fact came down. That impression is reinforced by the following passage on the next sitting day:
"Q. Mr Chan do you remember being asked some questions about this in the committal proceedings before the learned magistrate. I suggest to you Mr Chan that in those proceedings you were asked a number of questions about the process of moving blocks into bags in the hold. Do you remember being asked some questions about that?
A. When was it?
Q. This is in December of last year Mr Chan.
A. Roughly yes.
Q. And you were asked this I suggest firstly:
'Q. And when you went down into the hold and walked forward to see the blocks, there was no Indonesian crewmen in there. Correct? A. No. Q. That's correct is it? A. Sure'.
INTERPRETER: Excuse me.
[COUNSEL]: Sorry I'll take it in stages.
'Q. And when you went down into the hold and walked forward to see the blocks, there was no Indonesian crewmen in there. Correct? A. No.'
A. When I went down there, there was no Indonesian crewman.
Q. That's the question [you] were asked and that's the answer you gave right?
A. Yes.
Q. And then you were asked: 'Q. That's correct is it? A. Sure.'
A. Yes.
Q. You were then asked further questions about moving the blocks and putting them in bags, and then you were asked this question:
'Q. And whilst that was happening there were no Indonesian crewman in the hold. Correct? A. No.'
A. From the position where we were there was no Indonesian crewman.
Q. Mr Chan is that the question that you were asked in front of the magistrate and is that the answer you gave?
A. Yes.
Q. Your attention was again brought to this subject in March of this year proceedings was it not Mr Chan. Do you remember being asked questions about this in the proceedings on 3 February of this year?
A. Yes.
Q. And I suggest Mr Chan that you were asked a number of questions by the Crown Prosecutor on this subject. Do you recall being asked questions on that?
A. Yes.
Q. And in those proceedings you described the process of removing blocks from bags and putting them into other bags. Do you remember giving some evidence about that process?
A. Yes.
Q. You were asked this question:
'Q. Did any crew member enter the storage place where you were working with Man Chai during that period of hours? A. No one came."
That is the question you were asked and that is the answer you gave?
A. Yes."
211 The cross-examination then moved to another subject. Again the concern appeared to be whether any Indonesian crewman was in, or entered, the hold while the blocks were moved.
212 When Siregar gave evidence in chief, he was not asked about the incident in the hold. The Crown cross-examined him about it, but he denied it, though he did agree both that the speedboat engine had been damaged and that it was part of his responsibility as chief officer.
213 The parts of the Crown's address directly touching upon this incident appear in the middle of the following passage:
"Mr Siregar … was a member of the crew that manned the Uniana on her journey from Taiwan to Hong Kong where she anchored and waited for a number of days until the derrick was done and the crew came on board. He is the only crew member of the original crew who remains on board. Ladies and gentlemen the Crown submits to you that he does not remain on board because of some putative illness on the part of the chief engineer on the On Shun and he was roped in because of illness, the Crown asks you to infer from all of the circumstances that the organisers of this importation employed Mr Siregar well in advance of the importation in order for two very important things to happen. One, in order that he would be the person involved in supervising the refurbishment and repair of the vessel that was of course about to embark not only on a long sea voyage but a sea voyage where it was never intended that the vessel would draw into port, so the engines had to be first class, the engine room in its function had to be absolutely first class and of course there are those important additions to this vessel that set it apart, the sea valve and the extended derrick. The organisers in my submission to you of this importation employed Mr Siregar and retained his services for the voyage to ensure that the man who'd got the engines up to top class who knew the operating detail of the mechanical and electrical equipment would be there ready and on call should anything happen because ladies and gentlemen the last thing that these organisers wanted to happen was for the vessel to be stranded at sea with a broken valve or something. She certainly could not draw to port after the Andaman Sea could she.
Mr Siregar admitted under cross-examination his involvement in repairing and preparing the Uniana but asserts he had no knowledge why that was being asked of him. He had no knowledge of what journey was planned, he had no knowledge of what time frame it was expected the vessel would be at sea, he had no knowledge of where the vessel was going. Just how ladies and gentlemen you might ask yourselves could this chief engineer discharge his responsibilities as chief engineer and ensure that there was sufficient fuel on board if he doesn't know where it's going, he doesn't know how long it's to be at sea. It's fundamental. He had of course to encounter another problem with the checking of the fuel supplies. He had to be down under deck sounding the fuel tanks and ladies and gentlemen either completely oblivious or utterly without curiosity or concern he too doesn't lift the cover up on its edge and have a look underneath or does he or is it rather that he really didn't need to. Wasn't it Mr Siregar ladies and gentlemen you might think who supervised the installation of the sea valve so recently installed and evidenced by the slag on the flange at the bottom of the valve.
His attempts ladies and gentlemen to avoid knowing it was there or admitting it and indeed to deny ever seeing it were in my submission to you putting it bluntly utterly unacceptable, indeed utterly incredible.
He did acknowledge that part of his responsibilities as chief engineer were to ensure the proper functioning of all of the machinery, including the speedboat engine.
He could hardly deny that in the circumstances, given that that's his own explanation for being on the speedboat on 14 October. He accepts that he was called to check the functioning of the engine, indeed was responsible, if not solely, certainly in company with orders for those test runs around Indonesia. But he absolutely denied ducking his head under the cargo deck that night that Chan and Chen on the Crown case were up the other end of the cargo hull doing their business with the blocks. Absolutely denies that.
Maybe [counsel for Siregar] will submit to you that Mr Chan is lying about that. Well look Mr Chan on the Crown case is lying about a lot of things, but if he was going to drop Mr Siregar into it, he was going to put him in the pot, he didn't have to be so circular about it did he. Didn't have to beat around the bush, didn't have to have him just ducking his head in, he could have said come in have a look. That part of Mr Chan's evidence in my submission to you given Siregar's responsibilities for checking the speedboat and maintaining its function is acceptable and you will reject Mr Siregar's denials to that effect and you will reject them on all the evidence in the Crown case.
Mr Siregar can hardly admit it for obvious reasons. Mr Siregar he could hardly do otherwise knowing that the speedboat was on board the Uniana for the simple reason he must have been there when it was brought on board in Hong Kong. It didn't drop from the sky, but when pressed under cross-examination as to what he thought the speedboat was going to be used for couldn't account for it except that it was most unusual but apparently he doesn't ask anybody. Now is that acceptable. Do you think that it is reasonably plausible that the chief engineer would not ask. Do you think it reasonably plausible that the chief engineer would not know where the vessel was going when it drew from port.
You've only to mount these propositions one on top of the other for the castle of cards in the Crown's submissions to come toppling down around Mr Siregar on the question of knowledge. The engine room log consisted with the false log in the wheel house, no engine room log for that part of the journey where the Uniana is travelling into the Andaman Sea and out. The engine room's log or the engineer's log, I think it's called only kicks in at about 14 September, well clear of the Andaman Sea ladies and gentlemen en route to Singapore.
Police officers through Mr Zuccato's evidence searched that vessel top to bottom as you would expect they would. They're investigating officers, they were at that time investigating the importation into Australia of a massive amount of heroin, do you accept that it is reasonably possible that they missed the engine log in the engine room. The Crown submits it was not there to be found.
Mr Siregar slipped up a couple of times in his evidence and critically, indeed crucially. The first is his slip up in his reference to Singapore. Singapore you will remember was the place where the refuelling was to take place. He said he had no idea at all how much fuel was needed, where the next refuelling was to take place or indeed where the vessel was going. I cross-examined and he, in my submission to you, slipped up and revealed in that process his lack of honest accounting for himself.
I was cross-examining him, page 772 about why the other crew left. Question, why did those crew members leave do you know? Answer, the reason was because they hadn't got their salary yet and they demanded their salary to be paid off. And I suppose you demanded that your salary be paid too did you? Answer, yes I did but the organiser said yes I will deal with you later and you accepted that did you? Answer, no I haven't got the money yet he only told me that he would fix me up later, that was what I heard from him. And on the strength of his promise to pay you later you decided to stay on board, is that your evidence? Answer, that's true.
Then you were happy enough to leave Hong Kong the following day, the 15 August having no idea where you were going and having no idea how long you would be at sea, is that your evidence? Answer, I wasn't quite happy actually at that one because I hadn't got my salary yet. Well did you complain about the fact that you hadn't been paid and say to the captain, unless I get paid I'm not coming with you? Answer, I didn't do that kind of action because if I do something like that I might be taken off in Singapore and I would lose my job. You thought the boat was going to Singapore did you? Answer, no.
Ladies and gentlemen this chief engineer well knew that there was going to be no drawing to port to take on fuel, there had to be a lot of fuel to get her out of Hong Kong to the Andaman Sea and then for fuel to be taken on in Singapore which would enable the vessel to come clear all the way home. All the way back to wherever she was going to dock after the successful deposit of the heroin in Australia and of course as you know Mr Siregar was utterly unable to deal with Japan, the port of next destination marked on the fuel receipt, signed by him and collected in Singapore. Utterly unable to deal with it, so what does he say when presented with it I didn't see it.
So as not to repeat myself ladies and gentlemen, the captain gets the blame for the Prada bag, this time not that it was given to him but that he was asked to look after the captain's smokes. He had no idea what heroin was, he had no idea that heroin was a narcotic and he had no idea that narcotics were exported from the very region where this cargo was taken on board.
If either - let me just return to Mr Ismunandar for a moment, if either Ismunandar or Siregar to acknowledge that what would swing in immediately for them to deal with is that for them to deal with is that way in which the law understands the notion of knowledge. To remember its either actual knowledge because of what you see with your eyes or what you hear with your ears or what all the circumstances convey to you such that you can say well I know that because of the very real likelihood that it is so. If either of those two men conceded what in my submission to you is a notorious and indeed infamous fact at the turn of the century, namely that narcotics are exported throughout the world from south east Asia they would be stuck having to explain what this stuff was taken on board off the coast of Burma under cover of darkness in the high seas.
Finally and it is finally for Mr Siregar, I will have to return to it in Mr Chen's case but let me invite you now to carefully review if you have the need the thermal imaging video, that piece of footage that doesn't distinguish man from man as they hopped onto the land at Grant's each but by reason of the fact that they were all mortal, their bodies or their body shape is shown literally figuratively, because it's not the Crown case that there is any means of distinguishing Mr Siregar from Mr Chen or either of them from Mr Chan.
Ladies and gentlemen, you consider it I'm not going to make too much of this at this stage, you consider it and you will see three bodies moving to and from that boat. And you don't have to go very far to conclude this much, that both Mr Siregar and when I come to it Mr Chen are hands off those black bags in any circumstances. Nobody or neither of those two people, those two accused, are taking responsibility for carrying those black bags. Why? You pick up the exhibit, it's heavy.
Ladies and gentlemen you don't have to rely solely upon the thermal imaging, Mr Gordon, Federal Agent Gordon, gave evidence not challenged that he saw three people carrying objects to shore and I think I'm quoting the evidence accurately I hope, that there was more than one journey or at least a repeat journey. Mr Siregar will not acknowledge his involvement even at journey's end, because ladies and gentlemen Mr Siregar cannot adequately account for his involvement at the commencement of the journey, indeed, for many weeks prior to it. It's the Crown's submission to you that you will not find reasonably plausible any part of Mr Siregar's denial of knowledge and that you will find knowledge proved against him beyond reasonable doubt."