"COUNSEL: Yes, up until the time that it was apparent that Mr Colbeck arrived with the cheque, at the back of the premises with the cheque for $402,000, up until that time my client's position is that he believed that Gotham Audio were going to be paid out in full, despite the terms contract, because they could be. HER HONOUR: All right, so, what, just on that time at that second he was convinced to enter into a $400,000 fraud. COUNSEL: No, no. It was after the cheque was in their possession, as it were. HER HONOUR: 'And then we've decided, OK, let's go create a new company and do this fraud.' [Counsel], I mean, it's pretty amazing stuff to ask us to believe, isn't it? COUNSEL: Why is that, Your Honour? HER HONOUR: Because it is so highly improbable. COUNSEL: Well, Your Honour, what my client says is that having been in the position, that in other words Ms Winters' position was, 'Let's take advantage of the terms now the cheque's come to us, let's take advantage of the terms and pay them out according to the terms instead of paying them out now.' HER HONOUR; And your client says, 'OK, we two will create a new company, we'll do this this afternoon, we'll create a new bank account, we'll put it in, we'll pay out all our creditors.' ...
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HER HONOUR: [Counsel], I have done a number of things to do with company frauds over the years and fairytales don't impress. Now this is - so far - - - COUNSEL All right, can I tell you some more of the fairytale, if that's the way you're putting it, Your Honour?"