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[2005] VSCA 11
Court of Appeal (Vic)
2005-02-08
VINCENT and NETTLE, JJ.A. and CUMMINS, A.J.A.
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[ 2005] VSCA 11
Criminal law - Sentencing - Armed robbery - Applicant sentenced in respect of other crimes while awaiting trial in respect of subject offences - Total effective sentence in respect of subject offence of six and a half years with a non-parole period of five years not manifestly excessive but totality of sentences so imposed and earlier imposed in respect of other offences crushing - Appeal upheld - Re-sentenced to six and a half years with non-parole period of five years.
"I was at Springie [meaning Springvale] and then some fucking swine stuck his hand in my fucking window and grabbed $50, done a bolt on me, right. And my girlfriend can't run because she's got a broken leg, so I jumped out of the car and sprinted after him. I just grabbed the first thing I see at my feet which happened to be a fucking knife, stupid idiot me, and then...he's screaming, and he was throwing shit everywhere. I don't know what he was throwing but he was throwing shit everywhere, left right and centre and then when I finally caught up to him in the car park I just - I stabbed him in the back, right ,'cos I couldn't, he was a big boy, he was a very big boy and there was no way I could take him on, you know what I mean, so I stabbed him."
"Cos he's a big boy and I' telling you he just picked me up and I wasn't even going to stab him, that was just for intimidation, like, you know what I mean, like, give me my money back cunt, I'm going to cut your throat, you know what I mean. And then ... he's a big boy, he turned on me, you know what I mean, what more was I supposed to do. I had a knife, he's either going to take my knife off me and stab me with it or it was vice versa, you know what I mean, it was kill or be killed, sort of thing. So I just put one decent hole in him and just legged it. There was no way if one hole doesn't hold him down and he comes up and we're dead, you know what I mean. I've got my girl, she can't run, she's got a broken leg, you know what I mean."
Question: "I put it to you as you were angry that when you were stabbing him you were trying to actually do some serious damage?" Answer: "No, I just wanted to make sure he felt it." Question: "Then I put it to you that you actually wanted to kill him as you were angry with him?" Answer: " No...It wasn't, no, I just fucking mate I put it in him and then I twisted it to make sure he felt it. " Question: So you twisted the knife after you stuck it in?" Answer: "I didn't go for no crucial parts or nothing, I could have gone for the heart, lungs, liver, you know, I tried going somewhere high where it wouldn't cause too much trouble and that, you know what I mean, too much damage like. I didn't really want to hurt the bloke, but out of principle what he done to my girl. You know what I mean."
a) The judge erred in his conclusion as to the severity of the injuries inflicted on the victim of the offence;
b) The judge gave insufficient weight to the applicant's prospects of rehabilitation;
c) The sentence fails to give weight to the "totality principle" of sentencing;
d) The sentence was in all the circumstances manifestly excessive.
The application for leave to appeal in this matter is allowed.
The appeal is treated as having been instituted and heard instanter. The orders for disposal and confiscation made by the learned sentencing judge are confirmed.
The sentence imposed on Count 2 and order for cumulation made by his Honour are set aside.
A sentence of imprisonment for a term of six and a half years is reimposed. The Court orders that three years and six months of that term is to be served cumulatively upon the sentence which the applicant was undergoing at the time the sentence was imposed in the Court below.
The Court fixes a period of five years before the appellant becomes eligible for parole.
The Court declares that the period of 546 days which the appellant has served to date is to be reckoned as served under the sentence hereby imposed.
The Court directs that this declaration and its details be entered in the records of the Court.
[1] Postiglione v The Queen [1997] HCA 26; (1997) 189 C.L.R. 295 at 308; Mill v The Queen (1988) 166 C.L.R. 59 at 63_; R v Gordon_ (1994) 71 A.Crim.R. 459 at 466.
[2] Fox & Frieberg, Sentencing, 2nd Ed. at [9.620].
[3] R v Cowie, CCA 2/2 /78 unreported; R v Yates [1985] VicRp 3; [1985] V.R. 41 at 48.
[4] R v Adams (1979) 3 Crim.L.J. 302, D.P.P. v Saville CCA 2/3/84 unreported, R v Bowman (1993) 69 A.Crim.R. 530 at 539; R v Everett ( 1994) 73 Crim.R. 550.
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