34 It is apparent from the record before us that the Applicant entered a plea of guilty on 3 September 2001, which was the date fixed for the commencement of the trial.
35 The record shows the matter then came before the court on 26 October 2001, on which occasion the Applicant was represented by counsel. Upon that date evidence was received, and some submissions were placed before his Honour concerning the appropriate range. It is evident from the discussion which took place that Mr Austin of counsel, who represented the Applicant, accepted that a range of fifteen percent to twenty five percent, by way of a discount for the plea, was appropriate. There was discussion between his Honour and counsel to the effect that the relevant non parole period was within the range of twelve to eighteen years.
36 As his Honour pointed out, the Crown pointed to the higher end of that scale and Mr Austin accepted that the lower end of the scale would be appropriate.
37 His Honour indicated that, after a discount for the plea he would end up with a non parole period within that range.
38 It is also evident from the record that, subject to the reception of the victim impact statement, all relevant evidence and submissions had been received on 26 October.
39 The sentence was, in fact, handed down on 16 November, following the tender of the victim impact statement.
40 The Applicant has submitted, in a letter provided this morning, that he has concerns in relation, not only to the advice which he claimed was given to him by counsel concerning the possibility of him receiving a twenty five percent discount, but also in relation to the asserted absence of counsel when the matter came back before the court on 26 November.
41 We have had the benefit of perusing a copy of the associate's record which shows that the case was called on at 12.06pm, at which point Mr Austin apologised for not having attended earlier. The record then shows that there was a discussion concerning the victim impact statement, after which his Honour proceeded to pronounce sentence.
42 That record does not bear out the assertion which is made in the document, provided this morning, to the effect that there was no one to argue on sentencing on behalf of the Applicant on that day. Nor does it bear out the assertion that counsel said that he did not have any paperwork for sentencing and did not have a date for sentencing.
43 It is apparent, as I have indicated, that for all practical purposes the reception of evidence and submissions had already been completed, and all that remained on 16 November, was for his Honour to receive the victim impact statement and then to pronounce sentence. The matter of which the Applicant complains could not possibly have acted to his prejudice.
44 It may be noted that additionally there was an indirect suggestion in this document that the Crown Prosecutor and the Judge had some kind of discussion, and that the sentencing did not occur until after lunch and then only in the absence of counsel. It is perfectly apparent that those facts are incorrect. It is also inconceivable that the Crown Prosecutor had any discussion with his Honour in private.
45 The case is one where the sentencing judge had accepted that the Applicant had shown some remorse and fixed a discount of fifteen percent to encompass the utilitarian value of the plea and the remorse.
46 In R v Thomson and Houlton (2000) 49 NSWLR 383 a range of between ten percent and twenty five percent was suggested as the appropriate range of discount for a guilty plea. The Chief Justice there said (at para 155):
"The top of the range would be expected to be restricted to pleas at the earliest possible opportunity and should not be given, save in an exceptional case, after a matter has been set down for trial. A discount towards the bottom of the range is appropriate for late pleas, for example on the date fixed for trial, unless there are particular benefits arising from the prospective length and complexity of the trial."
47 It is to be observed this is a case where the plea first came on the date fixed for trial. It is not a case where there were any particular benefits from the plea arising in relation to the prospective length and complexity of a contested trial.
48 As was said by Howie J, with whom Dunford and Adams JJ agreed, in R V Hanslow [2004] NSWCCA 163 at para 24:
"It was submitted that the plea of guilty, coming at the earliest opportunity and before the magistrate, should have alone resulted in a discount of twenty five percent. This is an argument that converts a guideline into a rule. It has been said repeatedly by this court that the discount for the plea is a discretionary matter and that a particular offender has no entitlement to any particular discount: R v Scott [2003] NSWCCA 286; R v Newman [2004] NSW CCA 113".