20 In my view, Bank West has demonstrated to the required degree by credible testimony that if it is successful in this proceeding and Education Equity is ordered to pay its costs, Education Equity will be unable to meet such an order. While the authorities indicate that the paid up capital of a company will generally be irrelevant[5] in an assessment of the ability to meet an order for costs in the security for costs context, Education Equity has no real property in Victoria, Queensland or New South Wales. Like the respondent in Ffe Minerals, it has chosen not to confront Bank West's evidence in regard to its asset position. Education Equity was only incorporated earlier this year, apparently as a corporate vehicle to act as the purchaser in the transaction the subject of the proceeding. No accounts are available for it and, aside from what has been put forward by Bank West, there is no information about its financial position. The evidence put forward by Bank West is of a very similar type and quality to that regarded by Pidgeon and Owen JJ in the Ffe Minerals case as constituting "credible testimony". In Ffe Minerals, the evidence was that the company's paid-up capital was $4,001 and that there was no land registered in the company's name. There were no recent accounts available on the public registers and the accounts which were available showed that the company had made operating losses for a number of years. The respondent company to the application for security did not file any answering affidavit.