36 VHL contends that to construe the indemnity in the way argued for by Perpetual would, in effect, be to treat it as a guarantee of Mr Schmidt's indebtedness as calculated under the true loan balance. Counsel made the point that if it was intended to provide such a guarantee, it could have been set out in the MOA. He argued that the indemnity contained in the MOA was, to paraphrase his argument, a standalone document and needed to be interpreted accordingly, bearing in mind those matters that may have been within the contemplation of the parties. He accepted that the indemnity covered both costs and interest. However, consistent with authority, he argued that the costs should be limited to party/party costs (and at worst solicitor/client costs) and not solicitor/own client costs as claimed by Perpetual and reflected as "enforcement expenses". He also argued that to permit Perpetual to recover interest at the default rate, rather than the simple interest, was outside the scope of the term of the indemnity. Such a claim, he contended was akin to a Hungerfords v Walker[14] damages claim which was not made in the course of the trial.