Issues as to the second development application agreement
249 Evidence about the formation of the second development application agreement was given by Mr Bourke, particularly in para 51 of his first affidavit, and by Mr Walsh, particularly in para 113 of his affidavit.
250 In para 51 of his first affidavit Mr Bourke, after referring in para 50 to the appeal to the Land and Environment Court being dismissed, said that Mr Walsh told him to prepare a new scheme with fewer units and to introduce elements of a rural character into the design. Mr Walsh provided a copy of a SEPP 5 proposal on Mr Nolan's land and suggested that some similar features be incorporated in a new design for a SEPP 5 development on 607 Old Northern Road. Mr Bourke said that it would be necessary to reduce the scale of the buildings, to create open spaces and to avoid overshadowing and privacy issues.
251 Mr Bourke said that a part of the conversation was as follows:-
"He (Mr Walsh) said how many units do you think we can get?
I said: I think we can get about 70 units.
He said: I thought we could get more than that but we don't want any problems justifying the design. So work it out and do some plans so we can discuss the matter further".
252 Mr Bourke further said that Mr Walsh had said that Mr Nolan had got his design approved with 134 houses on the 10 acres of 599-601 Old Northern Road Glenhaven. Mr Walsh said that, on that basis, he should be able to get at least 70 houses on 607 Old Northern Road.
253 Mr Walsh said:-
"The Council is always going to object to any design we propose - even with two houses they would object, because of the Mayor".
254 Another part of the conversation was as follows:-
"He (Mr Walsh) said What will you charge to do this new design.
I said I will work on the same basis that we previously agreed, $2,600 per unit including the planning report and co-coordinating consultants.
He said Ray's architect is cheaper. Why will it cost so much, a lot of work has been done
I said We have to start again and do a new site analysis and work right through as if a new project and write another report-there is a lot of work. Ray's architect did not do the planning report and had a landscape architect do the landscape design. We are doing the whole lot plus co-coordinating the consultants. We are also going to be pressed for time and will need to have at least four staff working intensely on the project. We can get on to it straight away and we know what has to be done.
He said Ok, I want you to proceed as quickly as possible. The option has run out, it is going to cost BIG money to hold the site. We need to get a DA as quickly as possible."
255 Part of para 113 of Mr Walsh's affidavit was as follows:-
"On 10 December 2002, after the judgment in the proceedings was handed down, John Bourke and I had a cup of coffee outside the Land and Environment Court in Macquarie Street, Sydney. We had a terse conversation in words to the effect:
Walsh: "John, this is a disaster. We've gone down on everything to do with architecture. My suggestion to you was that we get a Town Planner to oversee your work months ago. You told me that you were 60 years of age and an expert and basically to mind my own business and sort out the agricultural and other issues and you would look after the architectural issues".
Bourke: "It's disappointing. I think we only lost because of the solar access".
Walsh: "John, that's not true. I'm not going to waste my time talking to you. I've put a call in to Ray Nolan and he strongly suggested to me that I go straight to his architect, Scott Carver and get him to design a proper SEPP 5 design that will be approved by the Council".
Bourke: "Look I don't want you going to another architect. This is my problem. I will fix it and make it so that, if the Council won't approve it, a Court will. There will be no charge whatsoever to you".
Walsh: "That sounds fine but there is one big issue. It has to be single storey design and it cannot be your standard design that you use for everybody. It must comply. I want Ian Glendinning overseeing the amendments".
256 In further paragraphs of his affidavit Mr Walsh said in para 115 that Mr Bourke promised to have the new plans ready by 15 January 2003, in para 116 that in a telephone conversation in early January 2003 Mr Bourke had said "your single storey design that you're suggesting will not work. I've left the same design, I just pulled out every fourth unit and created gaps in the building." Mr Walsh told Mr Bourke to go back to a single storey design.
257 In para 117 of his affidavit Mr Walsh said that, when Mr Walsh returned to Australia on 25 January 2003, he viewed the new drawings prepared by Mr Bourke "to my observation, they were almost identical to the original architectural drawings submitted with the first DA, save that a number of units had been pulled out".
258 In his affidavit in reply Mr Bourke disputed Mr Walsh's evidence in paras 113, 115, 116 and 117 of his affidavit.
259 Earlier in this judgment, in assessing the relative credibility of Mr Bourke and Mr Walsh, I referred to their evidence and Mr Glendinning's evidence about the subsequent meetings of Mr Bourke and Mr Walsh with Mr Glendinning.
260 There is one clear error in Mr Bourke's recollection of his conversation with Mr Walsh after the appeal to the Land and Environment Court was dismissed. The appeal by Mr Nolan (or more properly by his company M&R Civil Pty Ltd) against the refusal by Hornsby Shire Council of a SEPP 5 development application on 599-601 Old Northern Road Glenhaven was not heard in the Land and Environment Court until late January 2003 and the Land and Environment Court did not deliver its judgment until 11 February 2003. Accordingly, Mr Walsh could not have said in a conversation taking place on or soon after 10 December 2002 that Mr Nolan's application had been approved.
261 For his part, Mr Walsh in his recollection of the conversation with Mr Bourke himself seems to imply that by the time of the conversation there had already been a successful outcome to Mr Nolan's application, thereby making a similar error to Mr Bourke's.
262 I consider it likely that in a conversation in December 2002 some reference was made by Mr Walsh to the application by Mr Nolan, with whom Mr Walsh was friendly.
263 It was submitted by counsel for Mr Walsh that I should prefer Mr Walsh's account of the conversation with Mr Bourke. It was submitted that Mr Walsh would have been upset and disappointed, if not outright angry, as a result of the decision of the Land and Environment Court and it was improbable that Mr Walsh in such an emotional state would have agreed to retain Mr Bourke again on the basis of Mr Bourke's being remunerated at the rate of $2600 per unit. It was far more probable, it was contended, that Mr Bourke, conscious of the criticisms made by the Land and Environment Court of his design for the first development application and concerned that Mr Walsh might retain another architect, would have agreed to attempt to rectify the situation by preparing a new design, without any further charge to Mr Walsh.
264 In my opinion, there are a number of improbabilities in Mr Walsh's evidence about the conversation with Mr Bourke. It is highly improbable that Mr Bourke could have said that the appeal had been lost "only because of the solar access".
265 It is improbable that Mr Bourke said he would have new plans ready by the latest on 15 January 2003. Mr Walsh was away in Ireland from before Christmas 2002 to 25 January 2003 and I would infer that his travel arrangements were known to Mr Bourke.
266 It is improbable that it was Mr Walsh who stipulated that the buildings in the new design would be of one storey only and that Mr Bourke later told Mr Walsh that "your single storey design that you're suggesting will not work". I am satisfied that, after the Land and Environment Court had given its decision, Mr Bourke accepted, in the light of the decision, that buildings in a new design would have to be of one storey only.
267 It is improbable that Mr Bourke would have said of his new design, "I've just pulled out every fourth unit and created gaps in the building". There is much evidence, some of which I have already referred to, that the design for the second development application was quite different from the design for the first development application.
268 I have decided that I should generally accept Mr Bourke's evidence of the conversation. I base this decision on what I consider to be improbabilities in Mr Walsh's evidence, on my assessment of evidence about the meetings with Mr Glendinning which I discussed earlier in this judgment, my general assessment of the comparative credibility of Mr Bourke and Mr Walsh and evidence by Mr Bullen about the quantity of work involved in the preparation of the second development application.
269 I will now answer issues (4).