(a) Did Citibank know about the second tier of lending by NM on the security of both the initial units and the further units?
1124 Citibank does not dispute that it knew Kelly was recommending his clients use Mortgage Power to invest in NM products and in NM units in particular. But it submits that its officers were not aware of the "second tier" of borrowing from NM for the acquisition of further units on the security of a mortgage over both the initial units and the further units.
1125 I will shortly review the evidence relating to the state of knowledge of the various Citibank officers, but it is convenient first to refer again to the nature of Mortgage Power. Until capacity testing was introduced as from 1 January 1991, Citibank's only concern was to ensure that if the facility were ever drawn on to its limit, there was sufficient security in place. Its policy in relation to the maximum permissible LSR varied from 70 per cent to 75 per cent. According to the testimony of Citibank officers, it was of no concern to Citibank for what purpose the customer used the facility (apart, of course, from the necessity of discharging any existing first mortgage so that Citibank could become first mortgagee). The Investor had a cheque book and could draw cheques at will. It was not a term of the facility that the Investor was not to borrow elsewhere. Accordingly, the Investor might not only draw a cheque for $X to purchase initial units, but also borrow from NM $4X in order to buy further units.
1126 Citibank itself advertised Mortgage Power as something which facilitated negative gearing. The advertisement of it in the Australian Financial Review of 25 January 1989 was set out earlier. NM submits that it is one thing to allow an investment to be funded up to 100 per cent out of the approved Mortgage Power facility, but it is a different matter for the customer, while having the benefit of that facility not fully drawn, to borrow 80 per cent of the cost of an investment from another source. Most of the 23 Investors could not, by resorting to their approved Mortgage Power facility alone, have acquired both the initial units and the further units. The position is analysed in Annexure 4 to these Reasons.
1127 I will now consider in some detail the evidence of the various Citibank witnesses on which NM relies.
Clark (State Manager for Victoria)
1128 In his affidavit, Clark stated as follows:
"17. On more than one occasion Kelly showed me an example of what he said was his standard presentation of investment advice to his clients, where he recommended they borrow against the equity in the client's property by the use of the Citibank Mortgage Power facility. This consisted of an oral explanation in which Kelly explained in dollar terms how funds could be borrowed against the property and used towards the purchase of units in a National Mutual property trust. I do not recall whether Kelly's presentation identified Citibank as being the source of those borrowings. According to Kelly's explanation, the returns from the property trust (and income tax benefits) would exceed the interest costs of borrowing, with the effect that after a number of years, the client would obtain a substantial profit on his or her investment.
18. Kelly did not then, or at any other time, show me or supply me with the prospectus for the property trust nor any written material setting out the nature of the investment he was recommending be acquired with the funds to be borrowed from the Bank. Other than knowing that he was recommending a National Mutual property trust, I did not know any specific details about the National Mutual financial products which he was promoting.
19. I cannot now recall whether Kelly used the expression 'negative gearing package' during his discussions with me. I did not know that National Mutual offered a 'negative gearing package'.
20. Kelly did not tell me and I then did not otherwise know (although I have later been told) that in the period from 1989 to 1992 many of Kelly's clients who became borrowers from the Bank under Mortgage Power facilities were simultaneously arranging substantial borrowings on Kelly's advice from a National Mutual mortgage trust for the purchase of units in the National Mutual property trust and for National Mutual insurance policies."
1129 Kelly said he recalled meeting Clark; did not recall giving him a sample presentation of the Package; remembered discussing with him various aspects of his method; did not dispute Clark's evidence that he (Kelly) did not tell him that the clients were simultaneously arranging a substantial borrowing from NM for the purchase of units in the Trust; said he spent very little time with Clark; and did not dispute Clark's evidence that on more than one occasion he showed him an example of what he (Kelly) said was his "standard presentation of investment advice to his [Kelly's] clients". The following exchange occurred in Kelly's cross-examination:
"Q. How would it happen, then, Mr Kelly, that you could show Mr Clark on more than one occasion a standard presentation of your investment advice and yet Mr Clark would not know from that that your clients were borrowing on the security of National Mutual Property Trust units unless you were sanitising the presentations that you were giving to him?
A. It was quite simple really. If I gave him the presentations, which I don't recall doing, the presentation necessarily included the regearing. Every presentation I did showed you take this much from Citibank and this much was borrowed from a [sic] National Mutual and the whole thing is done on the overall amount. If he saw the presentations he must have known. He says he doesn't know. It may have been from general discussions. I would accept that, if that is the fact, he wouldn't know because if he didn't come up, he wouldn't have seen a full presentation."
1130 In cross-examination, Clark agreed that Citibank did not seek to direct or constrain Kelly in what he said at point of sale; that Kelly's first presentation for Clark's benefit preceded LKFM's agency agreement of 3 April 1989; that the first presentation took place in a lounge area in the front foyer of Citibank's office at 185 William Street, Melbourne; that the second presentation was at Clark's desk in his office; that on the first occasion, only Clark and Kelly were present; that on the second occasion a further person, Carter, Dyring or Padgham, was also present; and that the second presentation was on the occasion of Kelly's seeking an increase in commission. Senior counsel for NM put to Clark the various elements of Kelly's "standard presentation" but Clark said in relation to many of them that he could not recall whether Kelly had mentioned them. Clark said he recalled Kelly stating that the income from the units would help offset the interest payable under the mortgage to Citibank and would in fact cover that interest. He said his understanding was that there was no "negative gearing element" in Kelly's financial plan as he represented it and that there was nothing more to it than the consolidation of debts through the Mortgage Power facility and the use of the balance to acquire units in the Trust. He said that having heard Kelly's presentation, he saw no reason to impose any limitation on what Kelly might or might not say about the suitability of Mortgage Power for use in conjunction with NM investments in the financial plan that Kelly was putting to his clients. Clark's cross-examination included the following:
"Q. Did he say anything along the lines that he was marketing the financial plan to self-employed and high net worth individuals?
A. I believe so.
Q. I suggest that the gravamen of what was being said to you was that this was a financial plan that was being sold to people who had a tax advantage, a tax advantage to be found in the plan?
A. Possibly.
Q. I suggest to you that the way Kelly presented the plan to you was clearly to the effect that it was a negative gearing plan?
A. No, it wasn't.
Q. What is the basis for your denial of the concept of negative gearing as being any part of the plan?
A. Clearly, from our point of view, it would have posed a greater credit risk if there was any aspect of negative gearing associated with it. Equally, our credit people would not have approved the applications.
Q. When you say 'our credit people would not have approved the applications', of whom are you speaking?
A. The staff in the Central Processing Unit in Sydney.
Q. It was your understanding, was it, that if any mortgage finance proposal had come through Kelly and the Melbourne office and up to the CPU, including, on its face, a statement that this was a proposed use of the mortgage proportional [sic - Mortgage Power] financial product, for negative gearing purposes, the application would have been rejected?
A. We wouldn't have submitted it.
Q. So it would have been rejected at the Melbourne branch office level?
A. Clearly.
Q. You say 'clearly'. Why?
A. Because it exposed the bank to a much greater risk. By any involvement whatsoever with negative gearing, you have absolutely no control as to the volume of money you have out, and the only security you have is your mortgage.
Q. So is this right, you expected the various account managers or area managers, or however you describe them, who were having direct contact with Kelly in the processing of the deals that were coming in through Kelly, to refuse to accept any proposal which had any element of negative gearing in it?
A. Yes. Negative gearing was never ever mentioned.
Q. Sorry. Perhaps I have not made my question clear enough. Did you expect your account managers or area managers to reject any deal that was coming in through Kelly which had any element of negative gearing referred to in it?
A. Yes.
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A. To answer your question, there was never any suggestion of negative gearing. If there had been, the deals would have been rejected.
Q. And they would have been rejected at the Melbourne branch level?
A. Yes.
Q. You wouldn't have wasted the time of the Central Processing Unit?
A. Absolutely not.
Q. Did you have some sort of policy directive in the Melbourne branch office telling your area or account managers that any applications which had a negative gearing purpose should be rejected?
A. No.
Q. Did you just assume that your account managers or area managers would reject any application which had as part of its purpose a negative gearing purpose?
A. No. What we had was a set of guidelines that were issued by the Central Processing Unit, where you stepped out of those guidelines at your peril.
Q. So is this right, there was something in some guideline that told the account or area managers to reject any proposal of Mortgage Power finance for a negative gearing related purpose?
A. As I said, negative gearing was never mentioned.
Q. Negative gearing was never mentioned at all?
A. No, sir.
Q. By anybody at Citibank?
A. Obviously, it would have been mentioned over a period of time. It was never mentioned in relation to these deals that were coming up being submitted on behalf of Lance Kelly.
Q. Is this right, never mentioned, so far as you can recall?
A. As far as I can recall."
The re-examination of Clark included the following:
"Q. … You might recall during the morning that you were saying that if it came to the attention of Citibank, in effect, that the purpose of the use of Mortgage Power was negative gearing, that it wouldn't have been submitted to head office, and so on?
A. Yes.
Q. Why was that?
A. The company policy at the time was to allow people to invest in a passive investment and whether that passive investment be the purchase of stocks or bonds or property, or units in a property trust, that was considered to be acceptable. But by double gearing, if you like, it was considered unacceptable.
Q. What do you mean by double gearing, then?
A. Utilising the funds that you have borrowed to borrow more.
Q. In this present case, do you understand that any double gearing actually occurred in the present case?
A. No.
Q. I meant, in fact, with a National Mutual product?
A. Not at the time, no.
Q. What do you mean not at the time, sorry?
A. Well, we were aware that people were borrowing from a Citibank Mortgage Power to invest in units in the National Mutual Property Trust.
Q. Is there anything you now know that you didn't then know about that?
A. Well, I believe that what they were doing was borrowing additional funds.
Q. From?
A. Whoever, I'm not sure.
Q. Was that something that you had in mind earlier when you were saying that negative gearing would have caused the application not to be referred to head office?
A. Yes." (my emphasis)
1131 I do not accept that Kelly brought home to Clark that Kelly's clients were using Mortgage Power to fund part of an investment in NM units and were funding the much greater remainder by borrowing from NM on the security of a mortgage over both the initial units and the further units. I accept Clark's testimony that he was not aware of any second tier of borrowing. But I do not accept that Citibank had a guideline in place to prevent this happening. There is no documentary evidence before me of such a guideline and no other Citibank witness referred to one. I think Clark's recollection is mistaken in this respect.
1132 Clark's testimony above is to the effect that in its own interests Citibank would not have processed an application if it had known that "double gearing" or "re-gearing" was in contemplation. But I am not sure that it would not have done so, at least in all cases. It must be borne in mind that an advertised advantage of Mortgage Power was that the customer could use it for any purpose of his or her choice. It would be inconsistent with that kind of promotion of Mortgage Power, for customers to be prevented from using it to fund a "deposit", to use Kelly's term, on which to borrow elsewhere. A question would also have arisen as to how Citibank could have prevented "double gearing" in the future.
1133 I think it might have been surprising and perhaps alarming to Citibank to appreciate that Mortgage Power was being used as a foundation for the making of a further large borrowing which, in the case of all Investors, had the potential to take, and in the case of most Investors already did take, the amount of the Investor's total borrowings beyond the approved ceiling of the Mortgage Power facility itself. I think that at least Citibank might have called a halt to Kelly's practice so that the ramifications could be considered, perhaps on a case by case basis.
Carter (State Sales Manager, Victoria)
1134 In his affidavit, Carter testified about Kelly's presentation as follows:
"12. On one occasion Kelly showed me an example of what he said was his standard presentation of investment advice to his clients. The presentation consisted of an oral explanation, in conjunction with the use of the whiteboard, in which Kelly explained how the equity in the investor's property could be used to borrow funds for the purpose of investing in a National Mutual property trust. Kelly identified the National Mutual projections for the returns from the property trust and the income benefits, in the form of tax deductions.
13. At no time did Kelly show me or supply me with any written material setting out the nature of the investment he was recommending to his clients. Other than knowing he was recommending a National Mutual property trust, I did not know any specific details about the National Mutual financial products which he was promoting. Nor did I know that National Mutual made lending facilities available for the purchase of its investment products."
1135 In his affidavit in response, Kelly said only that on one occasion Carter telephoned him and asked for the current prospectus for the Trust, which Kelly caused Van Minnen to provide to him. In cross-examination Kelly agreed he showed Carter what he said was his standard presentation to his clients, which consisted of an oral explanation in conjunction with the use of a whiteboard on which he explained how the equity in the client's property could be used to borrow funds for the purpose of investing in a NM property trust. He also agreed that he identified in that presentation NM's projected returns from the Trust and benefits in the form of tax deductions. It was then put to Kelly that he had not made it known to Carter that NM would lend to enable the acquisition of further units, to which he replied:
"In that presentation I said, 'there is the $20,000 that comes from Citibank. Here is the $80,000 that is borrowed from National Mutual. The whole thing works on the $100,000, the dividend on it from the Trust, and this is the interest component, some to you and some to National Mutual.'"
Senior counsel for NM cross-examined Carter on his affidavit testimony about Kelly's presentation. Carter agreed there came a time after Ravanelli had had several communications with Kelly and some results were starting to flow through to Citibank, when he (Carter) deemed it appropriate to meet Kelly and go through his sales presentation with him. He said he sought this because it was his role to develop the marketing of Citibank products and he liked "to get a feel for the introducers that were generating a fair substance of leads and, thereby, applications."
1136 Carter agreed Kelly told him that the presentation (which Carter agreed preceded the appointment of LKFM as a Citibank agent) was his "standard" presentation; that nothing said by Kelly in the course of it gave him any cause for concern; that he gained the impression from the presentation that Kelly was "a very skilful salesman"; that it was a feature that there was "a negative gearing element in the presentation"; and that he (Kelly) was informing Carter that he would be encouraging his clients "to maximise their gearing". Carter said, however, that Kelly did not mention the further borrowing from NM and that he understood Kelly's reference to maximising the gearing to be a reference to the desirability of drawing down the maximum amount on the Mortgage Power facility and spending it on NM units. As noted earlier, this was indeed a form of negative gearing that Mortgage Power alone could be used to effectuate. Carter said that Kelly's presentation illustrated the following "principle":
"The principle was Lance Kelly would ascertain outgoings. He would get a client to estimate the value of their property, as you said, an example being $2,000 [sic]. The maximum we would lend in a metropolitan area was $260,000, being 80%. Let us say, for want of a figure, outgoings may have been a mortgage, Visa, a couple of personal loans, which totalled $60,000. Therefore, they had $100,000 to invest in clear equity into National Mutual Property Trust, and Lance was projecting figures which seemed quite reasonable at the time. I can't recall what they were, but they seemed most reasonable given my experience in unit trusts and, therefore, that would be used to repay part of the loan. And there is also gearing advantages, as you have already gone through."
1137 Carter agreed with the cross-examiner that the then Citibank interest rate was significantly greater than the nominated return from the Trust, and that he could not suggest that "these customers would not be facing a net negative flow of funds". But he still maintained that it was his understanding of the plan presented to him by Kelly that there would be a full drawdown against the whole of the balance of the Citibank facility for the purpose of maximising investment in the Trust. Carter agreed he had not attempted to sound any note of warning or to restrict Kelly in what he was to say to prospective investors. He said:
"My role was to ascertain as to whether Lance knew the mechanics and the workings of the Mortgage Power product. Lance was, as far as I was concerned, an insurance-cum-financial adviser, whatever we may call it, with National Mutual; therefore looking after his own client's investment needs. We provided the tool to be able to work those investment plans." (my emphasis)
1138 I have emphasised the whole of this passage because it encapsulates what I find was the understanding of the Citibank officers generally - an understanding which I find in substance reflected the true legal position.
1139 The difference between the positions taken by Citibank and NM is captured in the following part of Carter's cross-examination:
"Q. Is this right, you really didn't care what he said at the point when he was selling and promoting your product?
A. No.
Q. That's not the case?
A. No.
Q. You did have some interest in what he was saying at the point of sale?
A. Obviously, yes.
Q. And did you take any steps at all to direct what he was saying at point of sale?
A. He presented to me, as we have been through, and what he had presented to me showed me that he knew our product very well, the facets of the product and the selling features. We were not there to give financial advice.
Q. Your agent was there to give financial advice, though, wasn't he?
A. Not on our behalf.
Q. You retained -
A. He was an agent for Citibank to introduce business to Citibank, which he would be paid for.
Q. You were aware that at point of sale he was selling your product in conjunction with National Mutual financial products?
A. Yes.
Q. You expected him to be saying things to your customers, or the people who were proposing to become your customers, about each of those financial products?
A. Yes.
Q. And you expected that the people at point of sale would be taking into account what was said when making their decision about whether to go ahead with investment in this plan?
A. Yes.
Q. And in that way, is this right, you were of the belief that these customers would be relying upon what Lance Kelly said at point of sale?
A. Yes.
Q. Relying upon what he said about this investment plan in order to determine whether or not they should go on into it?
A. Yes." (my emphasis)
1140 Carter's understanding was that Kelly was authorised to represent Citibank in making representations and answering questions about the "facets" and "selling features" of the Mortgage Power "tool" to work "investment plans" that Kelly, the "insurance-cum-financial adviser", devised for his clients, but not in giving "financial advice" or recommending NM products, although he understood that Kelly would in fact be doing these things in a different capacity. I think Carter's understanding was correct.
1141 I prefer the evidence of Carter to that of Kelly on the issue whether Kelly included in his sample presentation to Carter a reference to the second tier of borrowing. It is true that Citibank had advertised Mortgage Power as a product which would itself facilitate negative gearing and that some of the Investors could have acquired the same number of units by resorting to their Mortgage Power facility alone. But there were considerations that might have led Kelly not to reveal clearly the second stage of the Package to Citibank officers. If the nature of the second stage were made explicit, the officers might ask themselves why Kelly had not offered the additional lending business to Citibank, and whether the client would be able to service both borrowings. If these concerns took root, Citibank might begin to raise difficulties for Kelly's Negative Gearing Package in so far as it involved the use of Mortgage Power.
1142 It is true that there are considerations pointing in the opposite direction. Kelly was proud of the Package and was not one to hide his light under a bushel. But ultimately I think that what happened in Kelly's presentation to Carter, and I so find, was that Kelly did not bring home to Carter the fact that the client was using a drawdown on the Mortgage Power account to pay for only one part of the units to be acquired and was borrowing elsewhere on the security of all units to pay for the much greater remainder. I do not accept Kelly's evidence to the contrary.
Ravanelli (formerly Storm and before that, Heyes - Account Manager)
1143 Ravanelli gave affidavit testimony as follows:
"15. Kelly once did a presentation to me, over a cup of coffee with him drawing figures and graphs on a pad. However the presentation was very baffling as he went through a lot of figures very quickly and the presentation did not follow any logical sequence. I gained the impression that the presentation was designed to baffle. I did not follow the presentation and did not pay much attention to it as I did not own a property and it appeared to me that this was a necessary component in what he was selling.
16. I knew that he was advising his clients to use the funds borrowed from the Bank to purchase National Mutual products but I was not aware that he was recommending that they then should borrow additional money through National Mutual over the security of the National Mutual product or property trust units. I never heard Kelly use the expression 'negative gearing package' or 'negative gearing' in connection with the National Mutual product/property trust. I understood that because of his connection with L J Hooker, Kelly scoured for 'bargain' properties to be purchased as a part of 'negative gearing' I understood he was advising his clients to get into.
17. Kelly did not give me or show me any written material connected with the investment advice he gave his clients, such as the prospectus for the property trust. He did not say what were the properties in the property trust or anything else about the nature of the property trust."
1144 In his affidavit in response, Kelly stated:
"15. I refer to paragraphs 15, 16 and 17 of [Ravanelli's] affidavit. The basic form of the presentation I did to promote the Mortgage Power loan as a means of a negatively geared investment in the Property Trust remained the same throughout the period I was using the Mortgage Power, that is, from about October 1988 to about October 1991 when I ceased using Citibank.
16. To the best of my recollection, almost all investors I dealt with who used their Mortgage Power loan to purchase units in the Property Trust borrowed further from NMPS to purchase further units.
17. I made a number of presentations to Ms Ravanelli. If she was not paying much attention to a presentation it would not surprise me if she found it baffling.
18. I refer to paragraph 16 and say that whilst it is true that initially we were using the Mortgage Power facility to purchase investment properties, we soon started using an investment in the Property Trust instead of a direct investment in property.
19. I say that my presentations to Tracie Ravanelli may not have used the expression 'negative gearing package' because this was the expression used on the NMPS Loan package but I did use it once we started selling the Property Trust instead of direct investment in property. I did use the expressions 'negative gearing' as well as the expressions 'neutral gearing' and 'positive gearing' in my presentations to Tracie Ravanelli."
1145 Citibank submits that Kelly could not have described his Negative Gearing Package to Ravanelli because the NMAM negative gearing arrangement was not introduced until after she ceased to be employed by Citibank. Ravanelli testified that she "left the Bank in August 1988" and this was not challenged in cross-examination. I find that she ceased working with Citibank in August 1988. It is necessary, in order to understand Citibank's submission, that I refer in more detail to the evidence relating to the origin of Kelly's Negative Gearing Package - a matter that is referred to for a different purpose in Chapter 11.
1146 The Trust was constituted and governed by the National Mutual Australian Property Trust No 1 Trust Deed dated 19 February 1985 between NMAM as Manager, PTA (then called "Permanent Trustee Nominees (Canberra) Limited") as Trustee, and Permanent as Guarantor. Clause 89(a)(v) empowered the Trustee with the Manager to alter the principal Deed in certain circumstances. Pursuant to that power, on 5 August 1988 a supplemental deed varied the principal Deed to empower NMAM, upon the request of a unit-holder, to enter the name of a mortgagee in the register of unit-holders. The board of NMAM approved the adoption of a negative gearing arrangement on 21 October 1988. The minutes read:
"The Board reviewedthe Information Paper on Negative Gearing Package - Unlisted Property Trust and agreed to the proposal. Management were requested to inform National Mutual Royal Bank and Mercantile Credits of the proposal."
1147 The "Information Paper on Negative Gearing Package - Unlisted Property Trust for Board Consideration" took the form of a document dated 17 October 1988. It recommended the launch of a negative gearing facility with funds obtained from the NMAIF to assist "clients" to purchase units in "the unlisted property trust". The paper described the "need for such a package" as being to lift the returns obtained on loan funds of the NMAIF, and to offer a service similar to that being afforded by the managers of other trusts. The document noted that the National Mutual Royal Bank was already offering borrowers "just such a facility" but that there was "scope for an in house finance package to be provided." The document described a "[l]oan approval procedure" which commenced with the filling out of an application for finance form by the proposed borrower/investor in conjunction with an insurance agent. The applicant was to attach a cheque for the loan approval fee and 20 per cent share of the equity in the units. The LVR was to be 80 per cent gross (maximum) and the loan amount was to be a minimum of $20,000. The security was to be the whole of the units, that is, the 20 per cent and the 80 per cent. NMAM was to draw on Permanent, the trustee of the NMAIF, for the loan funds and was to pass to Permanent the Unit Trust Certificates, which were not to be released until the debt was discharged. If the value of the units fell, the borrower would be required either to reduce the debt to the new 80 per cent LVR level or to provide additional security to ensure that that level was maintained.
1148 The similarity between this NMAM negative gearing arrangement and Kelly's Negative Gearing Package is striking. The only additional element in the latter is the use of Mortgage Power to fund the acquisition of the "20 per cent deposit". For this purpose Kelly also used the Bank of Melbourne, and Jones also used the GIO.
1149 Although Kelly was introducing clients to Citibank as early as June 1988, he could not have given a presentation (let alone "a number of presentations") of the Package to Ravanelli before she ceased working for Citibank in August 1988 because the Board of NMAM did not establish the NMAM negative gearing arrangement until 21 October 1988. This tells against the credibility of Kelly's testimony on the matter.
1150 The evidence to which I have referred above also has an obvious significance in establishing that Kelly's Negative Gearing Package was founded squarely on the NMAM negative gearing arrangement and suggests that Mortgage Power was, as Kelly himself described it, one "tool" of several which he used to enable his clients to take advantage of the NMAM negative gearing arrangement.
Dyring (Account Manager from June 1987 to mid 1988 then State Agency Manager for Victoria until September 1989)
1151 Dyring gave affidavit testimony as follows:
"11. I was aware that Kelly was selling units in National Mutual's unit trusts in conjunction with the Bank's Mortgage Power product. I was not aware (though I have later been told) that National Mutual promoted a 'negative gearing package' under which a National Mutual mortgage trust lent money to investors on the security of their units in a National Mutual property trust. I was therefore not aware that Citibank's Mortgage Power product was being sold by Kelly in conjunction with his National Mutual negative gearing package."
1152 In cross-examination, Dyring said he knew, by the time he met Kelly, that Kelly was recommending to his clients an investment plan that involved investment in "National Mutual unit trusts, property trusts". Dyring agreed he knew that part of the plan was that the clients take a Mortgage Power loan and use it to acquire NM property trust units. Dyring also agreed that Kelly told him that his plan was a "negative gearing plan", by which Dyring understood:
"that there would be a cost differential between the interest paid on the borrowings to fund the investment and the likely income from the investment which provide the client with a tax deduction during the course of the administration of the financial plan."
1153 Kelly did not give a whiteboard presentation to Dyring. Dyring received information from Kelly about what he was doing at lunches they sometimes had together. Dyring agreed he thought he should distance himself from any giving of financial or investment advice by Kelly and deliberately took no steps to direct or control Kelly at point of sale, adding:
"In relation to finance, he was constrained by our guidelines. In relation to the investment advice, I have no knowledge."
1154 It was not put to Dyring that he knew that part of Kelly's recommended plan was that his clients borrowed from NM to enable acquisition of a much larger number of further units, using the initial units and the further units as security.
1155 I am not satisfied that Dyring knew of the second tranche of borrowing and unit acquisition.
Meyrick (formerly Garvey - initially Account Manager then manager of the CSU from May 1988 to 1996)
1156 Meyrick gave affidavit testimony as follows:
"9. I met Lance Kelly only once and was aware in general terms that he was connected with National Mutual property trusts. I recall that many of the applications from Kelly recorded the purpose of the borrowing from the Bank as being for investment in the National Mutual property trust. I knew of National Mutual as a large insurance company and believed them to be a reputable organisation. It did not seem to me to be a matter for concern on behalf of the Bank or its borrowers that borrowings from the Bank were being used in the purchase of interests in National Mutual property trusts."
1157 Meyrick was not cross-examined on the present issue and I am not persuaded that she knew that Kelly was recommending the second tier of borrowing and unit acquisition.
Hawkins (formerly Durnan - Account Manager from late 1989 in place of Tim Stewart)
1158 As noted earlier, Kelly gave Hawkins a whiteboard presentation which was "fast, lasting only a couple of minutes, very complicated and confusing, involving numbers, graphs and charts" and on which she did not concentrate. Hawkins' affidavit also contained the following:
"Although I was aware that Kelly was promoting the use of funds obtained through Mortgage Power to purchase units in National Mutual property trusts, I did not know that the units themselves were then being mortgaged to National Mutual for the purpose of borrowing further funds to purchase further units. I knew that 'negative gearing' meant borrowing for investment purposes, where the interest payable on the borrowings was tax deductible if the income on the investment fell below the interest on the borrowings. I did not know that 'double gearing' was possible. Nor did I know that it was possible to borrow against units in a property trust. At no stage, apart from the time I have referred to above, did Lance Kelly explain what the National Mutual investment was and how it worked. I do not recall Kelly using the expression 'negative gearing' or 'negative gearing package'."
1159 In his affidavit in response Kelly said he gave more than one presentation to Hawkins and that his presentations were in standard form and included reference to the second limb (borrowing from NM to enable further units to be acquired using the initial and further units as security). He also stated he used the expressions "negative gearing package" and "negative gearing".
1160 In cross-examination, Kelly agreed that what Hawkins saw in his office was fast and lasted only a few minutes. In relation to her description of the presentation, Kelly said:
"It wasn't confusing to me. I can't judge whether it was confusing to her. I can accept her word for it."
1161 Kelly disputed Hawkins' testimony that she did not know that the units purchased with Mortgage Power funds were mortgaged to NM, or that "double gearing" was possible, or that it was possible to borrow against the security of units in a property trust. In cross-examination he said he told Hawkins what cheques were to be drawn on settlement and that one of these was for "the fees on the National Mutual loan", that one was for the Comptroller of Stamps for stamp duty in connection with the NM loan, and that one was for interest on that loan.
1162 Hawkins was cross-examined at some length on the present issue. She said that there was only the one occasion on which Kelly gave any form of presentation of his plan to her, although she conceded that there could have been an occasion before she left Citibank when she was at Kelly's office in the company of Hall when Kelly gave a sample presentation to Hall. She said that the occasion she remembered was one in which she sat in Kelly's office for five or ten minutes; that she did not understand all of what Kelly said; that she did not think of what he was saying as a "sales track"; that she did not really understand what he was trying to do; and that her memory of the five or ten minutes was that Kelly was talking very fast, drawing and erasing on the white board. She repeated her testimony that she did not know that the units being acquired with Citibank money were being mortgaged to NM in connection with the borrowing from it of further funds to purchase further units, after which her cross-examination proceeded as follows:
"Q. Is it your evidence that you have a positive recollection that on the occasion of the presentation, which you deal with in your affidavit, Kelly did not say anything about the units themselves then being mortgaged to National Mutual?
A. No, that's not true.
Q. So, is this right, Kelly may well have said to you on this occasion that the units were subsequently being mortgaged to National Mutual for the purpose of clients borrowing further funds to purchase further units?
A. I don't recall what he said.
Q. But he may well have said something along those lines which you now simply can no longer remember?
A. I don't know. He may have done. I don't know.
Q. You do understand the difference between saying that he did not say such a thing, that is, that you have a recollection that he did not say that?
A. Right.
Q. And on the other hand saying, 'He may have said that, I cannot recall'?
A. Right. He may have said that. I cannot recall."
1163 Hawkins' cross-examination on the present issue concluded as follows:
"Q. What did you understand at this time the National Mutual Property Trust was?
A. I understood that National Mutual Property Trust units could be bought and negatively geared to create a negative gearing effect to help people save tax.
Q. And you understood, didn't you, from what he, Kelly, told you on the occasion of this presentation, that that was part of what he was selling to his clients?
A. I don't recall what he said at that presentation.
Q. At all?
A. I don't, I'm sorry.
Q. I have no [sic - a] need to suggest to you that he said that words to the effect that 'Once the clients had a Mortgage Power facility in place, they could use part of it to acquire some units in the National Mutual Property Trust'. You remember that, don't you?
A. I don't recall him saying that to me, but I did - sorry - I don't believe [sic - recall] him saying that to me, no.
Q. I suggest to you that he went on to say that the clients could then borrow from National Mutual to increase their investment in units?
A. No, I don't recall him saying that.
Q. Do you have any recollection of anything at all that was in fact said by Kelly on the occasion of the presentation…?
A. No, I don't.
Q. It is just a total blank?
A. Yes.
Q. He was writing on the whiteboard. You can remember that?
A. Yes.
Q. You certainly felt confused as a result of what he had said?
A. Yes.
Q. You felt that you couldn't really understand what he was saying to you?
A. Yes.
Q. But you didn't ask him to clarify anything?
A. I didn't.
Q. On what basis did that presentation end?
A. I think that Penny had, or he - I don't remember how it finished, sorry.
Q. You say in your affidavit that you did not know that double gearing was to be - what is double gearing?
A. Well, I now know that in this case they were borrowing against the asset that they had originally purchased using Mortgage Power. I didn't realise they were doing that.
Q. You weren't listening or concentrating when Kelly spoke to you on the occasion of his presentation. Is that not more accurately the position?
A. That may be true."
1164 Hawkins' testimony that Kelly did not refer to the second borrowing (from NM) on the security of the units is adversely affected by her poor recollection and by her testimony that, in any event, she did not understand what he was saying. I accept her as a truthful witness. In particular, I accept that she did not recall having gained at the time an understanding that Kelly's clients were borrowing further money from NM against the security of the units bought with Mortgage Power money, to acquire the further units. Kelly's affidavit and oral testimony were alike clear: he referred to the fact that a further loan was obtained from NM to finance the purchase of the bulk of the units and that only the initial units, to which he referred as the "deposit", were financed from the Mortgage Power facility.
1165 My assessment of Kelly is that he had an excessive and unjustified confidence in his recollection of events: the same confidence, perhaps, that had enabled him to succeed as a salesman. He was not disposed to question himself or to express doubts. He is the kind of person who could not comprehend, or be sensitive to, the state of knowledge and understanding of his hearers. He is the kind of person who would not be able to appreciate that a statement made once in the course of a rapid and brief presentation is apt to communicate nothing.
1166 Of course Kelly knew, at the times of the transactions and of testifying, clearly and precisely how his Negative Gearing Package worked. But either, like the worst of teachers, he was simply incapable of appreciating his listener's lack of understanding and giving a slow, step by step explanation, or it suited his purposes that his listener should not fully understand what he was saying.
1167 Kelly may have mentioned to Hawkins the further borrowing from NM but I am not persuaded that he did so in such a clear, deliberate and measured way that I should regard its significance as having been reasonably conveyed to her. Of course, the terms of the Mortgage Power facility did not prevent the customer from borrowing further money from any other source with or without security. It would have been possible for Kelly to have referred to a borrowing from NM in a manner and context that did not signify that the drawdown on the Mortgage Power account to buy the initial units was merely the tip of the iceberg, and that the bulk of that iceberg was the second stage borrowing and acquisition.
1168 I am not persuaded that Kelly brought home to Hawkins the fact that Mortgage Power was being used to enable the acquisition of "deposit" units which would provide the "springboard" from which the customer would be enabled to borrow a much larger amount from NM to acquire a much larger number of further units, using both the initial units and the further units as security.
Stewart (Account Manager from May 1988 to March 1989, Senior Account Manager from March 1989 to August 1989, State Agency Manager, Victoria from August to October 1989)
1169 In his affidavit Stewart said that at no stage did Kelly demonstrate to him his sales presentation on the whiteboard or otherwise. In an affidavit Kelly said he "went through" his presentation with, among others, Stewart. In a later affidavit he affirmed he "did make presentations" to Stewart in a manner which he described in more detail in that affidavit. These presentations referred to the purchase of initial units by the use of the Mortgage Power facility, followed by the obtaining of a further loan of four times as much from NM to finance acquisition of the bulk of the units. He deposed that he used the expressions "negative gearing package" and "negative gearing scheme" to Stewart. Of course, this was not apt to convey the notion of "double gearing" or "second (NM) stage gearing". He also said that when Stewart visited his office, he (Kelly) had NMPS loan forms on his desk and he said to Stewart:
"These are the applications to borrow the money for the balance of the units in the property trust."
1170 In cross-examination Kelly adhered to his testimony that he had given a sales presentation to Stewart. He said Stewart spent "a lot of time" in his (Kelly's) office where there were "a lot of National Mutual forms about, prospectuses, gearing packages." Kelly testified:
"I would say to him - I explained to him the way it worked. I would say, 'the money from Citibank goes in here. I use this form here to get the National Mutual loan organised. That is where it goes into'. So, to say he had never seen any of the National Mutual literature is not true."
1171 Notwithstanding what he had said in his affidavit, in cross-examination Kelly said he could not recall whether he had ever used the expression "negative gearing package" or "negative gearing scheme" when speaking to Stewart. Also in cross-examination, Stewart affirmed, not merely that he could not remember a presentation by Kelly, but that there never was an occasion on which Kelly gave him a demonstration of his sales presentation.
1172 I am not persuaded that Kelly did give a sample "sales presentation" to Stewart. Again, this is not to say that Stewart did not know that a drawdown on the Mortgage Power account was being used to acquire units in the Trust or even that there may have been further aspects of the plan which involved further dealings between Citibank's customer and NM, such as, a further drawdown or further drawdowns to acquire further NM units. But I am not persuaded that Kelly brought home to Stewart that the Investor was immediately to borrow anything like four times as much from NM to acquire anything like four times as many units as the number bought with the drawdown on the Mortgage Power account, and would use the initial units and the further units as security for that larger borrowing from NM. Moreover, the facts that Stewart was often in Kelly's office and that there were many NM forms lying about are not probative of Stewart's state of knowledge of the Package.
Hall (from November 1989 to September 1991, Account Executive in the CSU)
1173 In an affidavit Kelly said he "went through" an example of his presentation with, among others, Hall. But in his affidavit, Hall stated as follows:
"4. I did not have to establish any relationship with Kelly as there was already in place a system of processing loan applications submitted by him and conveying any changes in procedure to him. Consequently, I had no reason to spend significant time with Kelly or Penny Van Minnen except time spent at their office picking up completed loan application forms. On one occasion when I attended Kelly's office, I was asked to listen to a sales presentation of Kelly's. This took about five minutes and was given on a whiteboard. I did not understand it then nor do I recall it very well now. It was very fast and confusing. As I recall, Kelly said words to the following effect,
'This is an investment in a National Mutual property trust which has a [stated] percentage return on the investment. You invest [a dollar figure which I do not now recall] and after [a certain period] you get a [stated] return on the investment. The whole thing can then be cashed in.'
I recall the presentation was about tax savings although I do not recall exactly how it was put. At the time Kelly made the presentation to me he made representations to me about the amount of money that could be made selling this kind of product."
1174 In his affidavit in response Kelly said he did give Hall his standard presentation, which, included reference to the second part of the Package.
1175 In cross-examination Kelly agreed he had given a five minute presentation on a whiteboard to Hall who succeeded Hawkins as account manager. I will set out the whole of the cross-examination on the present issue as it reveals something of Kelly's defensive, sometimes aggressive, approach:
"Q. And did you say in his presence, 'This is an investment in a National Mutual Property Trust which has a stated percentage return on the investment.' Did you say that in his presentation?
A. I don't recall the exact words I said in his presentation. It was too long ago.
Q. Then you said that 'You can invest X dollars and then after a certain period you get a stated return on the investment' is that what you said?
A. What do you mean by a stated return? Do you mean a certain percentage?
Q. Yes. In other words, what I am putting to you is that he has no recollection of the dollar figure that you mentioned or the period that you mentioned or the particular return, but says you said, 'You invest X dollars' - whatever they were - 'for such and such a period' - whatever it was - 'and you get such and such a return on the investment' - whatever the return was. Is that correct?
A. If he has made the statement six years after the time I said it, I am not surprised he doesn't remember. I don't remember the exact figures either.
Q. And he says that you said, `The whole thing can then be cashed in'; is that right?
A. When?
Q. When you did your five-minute presentation for him?
A. He said I said, 'The whole thing could be cashed in'?
Q. After whatever the period was, whatever number of years it was?
A. You can sell an investment at any time, can't you?
Q. And he recalls that the presentation was about tax savings; you agree with that?
A. The tax savings came into it.
Q. He said that at the time you made the presentation you made statements to him about the amount of money that could be made selling this kind of product. Do you remember doing that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. And he said that he did not know that you were advising your clients to enter into a second level of borrowing from National Mutual and to reinvest in the purchase of further property trust units or other National Mutual products. Do you agree with that?
A. No, I don't agree with that.
Q. He says that he does not recall that being mentioned by you in the presentation which he attended?
A. Craig was more interested really than any of the other Citibank account executives in how that worked and he had full knowledge of what was happening.
Q. Mr Kelly, did you sanitise the presentations which you made to Citibank personnel?
A. What do you mean by sanitise?
Q. Did you take out for them any reference to gearing up on the Citibank money with National Mutual money?
A. They were well aware that the money was going in and it was being regeared through National Mutual. They had seen the forms. It had been explained to them. Yes. I do not know why they have all got instant amnesia.
Q. Was it an omission from the presentation which you did to the Citibank personnel that there would be gearing up on money lent by Citibank units mortgage power investment [sic] with National Mutual loans?
A. No, because not only did I tell them about the loans, when we were working out the costs and the costs that were drawn, all the different things that related to that National Mutual loan. I can't believe they would say they didn't know about the regearing. I just can't believe it."
1176 Hall was not cross-examined specifically on the "double gearing" aspect. He agreed he understood that a Mortgage Power customer was at liberty to use Mortgage Power to provide 100 per cent of the acquisition price of another investment and even to fund "a deposit on another investment." The cross-examination continued:
"Q. And in such a case, enabling them, thereafter, to borrow the balance of the purchase price of another investment through some other facility?
A. What they chose to do with the money could enable them to do anything they wanted to with that facility, so, yes, I guess the answer is yes.
Q. It was part of your understanding of the product, as it was taught to you, was it not, that one of its advantages was that it would enable a person to fund the deposit on an investment if he so chose?
A. I don't remember promoting it, that being one of the promoting factors."
1177 Hall agreed he understood that Kelly was selling a package of financial products to his customers which comprised investment in the Trust and the taking of a Mortgage Power facility to enable acquisition of that investment. He also agreed he saw a large number of proposals coming in through Kelly which had originated in New South Wales as well as in Victoria, and that he understood that NM agents in New South Wales were funnelling their clients' applications through Kelly.
1178 On the evidence, I am not persuaded that Kelly brought home to Hall that the Investors' drawdown on the Mortgage Power facility was merely to acquire the "deposit" units on the basis of which the Investors would borrow a much larger sum from NM to acquire the bulk of the units, using both the initial units and the further units as security for that second borrowing.
1179 I can now state my conclusions on the issue of the Citibank officers' knowledge of what Kelly was saying to prospective investors.
1180 The various Citibank officers understood it was a matter for the customer when, in what amounts and for what purposes to draw down on the Mortgage Power facility, and whether he or she accepted financial planning advice from Kelly. Consistently with this understanding, it should, in general, have been of no concern to them that the customer might be using a drawdown to acquire a "deposit" of initial units in the Trust with a view to borrowing a much larger amount from NM to acquire a much larger number of units, using both the initial units and the further units as security.
1181 I find that the Citibank officers were in fact not particularly interested in what Kelly had to say about his plan, provided he did not misrepresent Mortgage Power itself. This unconcern was consistent with the feature of Mortgage Power that it was available for any purpose of the customer's choice, and with the officers' view of Kelly as a NM agent and finance planner.
1182 Kelly's method of "demonstration" was not conducive to the Citibank officers' appreciation of the implications of his plan. I have no doubt that any presentation or description of it that he gave them, like the much lengthier and more detailed ones he gave prospective investors, was fast, confident and glib. His descriptions of his plan to the Citibank officers occupied only a small fraction of the time he gave to the Investors: there was no money for Kelly in talking to them, and if they understood his plan thoroughly they might begin to question its impact on their customers' capacity to service their borrowings.
1183 It is possible that somewhere along the line Kelly did mention to some Citibank officer that Mortgage Power was being used to acquire only "deposit units", and that a borrowing from NM was to fund the remainder on the security of all the units. But if he did, he did so in a manner that did not reasonably or sufficiently convey the position.
1184 If it had been brought home to the Citibank officers that the result of Kelly's Negative Gearing Package was that the Investors were becoming, or might become, indebted to Citibank and NM in a total sum that went above the approved ceiling on the Mortgage Power account itself, it is difficult to know what Citibank would have done. It might well have become alarmed and in its own interests ceased lending to Kelly's clients at all, or introduced a restriction, at least in the case of some of the Investors, designed to prevent this happening.