...to be quite frank with you and without taking sides at all I don't think you've got a chance on the material that's here and particularly on that one medical report that probably doesn't even comply with the rules but even assuming it does it's not relevant to the psychiatric issue, it's only relevant to the state of your urinary health. Do you follow that?
[The appellant]: Yes, your Honour.
His Honour: it seems to me that if you want to run your case, again, I'm just trying to help, but you don't have to accept what I'm saying to you, but if you want to run your case or even have a chance of running your case you're going to have to get expert medical evidence, independent expert medical evidence, from another medical practitioner. For example, another psychiatrist who will say, well, it shouldn't have been done this way, it should have been done another way, and sometimes that's just a matter of opinion in any event but if you could get a forceful body of evidence, you know, two or three psychiatrists who said, look, this shouldn't have
happened this way, then that would assist your case but at the present time you've just got no evidence it seems to me to assist your case. Because you can't give expert evidence. You can tell me what it's all about and you can give evidence from the witness box as to what happened and the events that transpired. But you should realise if you do, you're going to be cross-examined.
[The appellant]: Yes, Your Honour.
His Honour: You just haven't got any evidence at all before me and as I said - and you could speak to any lawyer in this area. These cases are won or lost, on expert evidence and the quality of the expert evidence.