Was the applicant offered a position with CHH?
103 The evidence concerning this matter comes essentially from the four persons who were present at the critical meeting which took place at the applicant's workplace at about 4.00 pm on Friday 27 March 1998. They were:
· The applicant;
· Christopher Baudinette, formerly a sales executive with Packaging, and since April 1998, an Acting Assistant Manager with CHH;
· Alistair Marris, General Manager of CHH; and
· John Bradbury, formerly Human Resources Manager at Cartons, and since April 1998, Manager, Human Resources at CHH.
104 The applicant and Mr Baudinette each gave evidence in support of the applicant's contention that he received no offer of a job of any kind at the meeting of 27 March 1998. Mr Marris and Mr Bradbury each gave evidence in support of the respondent's contention that, on that date, a firm offer of a job with CHH was made to the applicant.
105 I should indicate at the outset that I accept that each of the witnesses who gave evidence before me did so honestly, and in an endeavour to recount accurately what had occurred during the course of the meeting. It is common ground that the meeting itself was a short one, occupying no more than thirty to forty-five minutes. No contemporaneous notes of what occurred were taken by anyone present. There are, not surprisingly, significant differences between the parties as to what precisely was said, and by whom.
106 Some matters seem to me to be clearly established:
· Prior to the meeting the applicant was unhappy about the treatment which had been accorded by CHH to Packaging employees as a result of the sale of the business. He was also aggrieved by the fact that he had not been offered a position with CHH, treatment which he regarded as shabby.
· Also, prior to the meeting, the applicant was not greatly impressed with the thought of joining CHH. He was not anxious to assume responsibilities greater than those which he had hitherto carried out.
· During the meeting the applicant behaved in a somewhat truculent manner. This caused Mr Marris to have reservations as to whether the applicant truly wished to join CHH.
· Mr Marris had prepared a formal letter of offer which he had intended to hand to the applicant at the meeting. That formal letter of offer was not, however, given to the applicant. It cannot now be located.
107 The variations between the key witnesses as to what occurred are, as I have said, significant. Both the applicant and Mr Baudinette are adamant that no offer of employment of any kind was made by Mr Marris to the applicant. Rather, they say, there was general discussion concerning whether or not the applicant wished to be considered for a position with CHH. Mr Baudinette had previously recommended the applicant for such a position, albeit with some diffidence. The applicant was not his first choice. His name was proffered only when Mr Waites declined a position which had been offered to him. Mr Baudinette claimed that it became obvious to all during the meeting that the applicant was unsuitable for the job. He said that he signified his views to Messrs Marris and Bradbury at the conclusion of the meeting, after the applicant left the room. He said that Messrs Marris and Bradbury had shared those views.
108 Both Mr Marris and Mr Bradbury say that the applicant was made a firm offer of employment at the meeting. They say that the letter of offer which had been prepared earlier was removed from the envelope in which it had been enclosed, leaving in that envelope only certain promotional material concerning CHH. Mr Marris says he removed the letter of offer before handing the envelope to the applicant in order to make the applicant focus specifically upon whether he wished to accept the offer. His aim was to require the applicant to ask for the letter, after he had considered his position over the weekend, to ensure that the applicant was serious about wanting to work for CHH.
109 Both the applicant and Mr Baudinette deny that Mr Marris removed a letter from any envelope while the applicant was present at the meeting.
110 It is necessary now to set out in some detail the evidence given by each of the principal protagonists.
111 The applicant said in relation to the events of 27 March 1998 that on that date, which was the last day of the operation of the Cartons business prior to CHH taking over, he had been summoned to attend a meeting in a boardroom at the Riverwood premises. Present at that meeting were Mr Marris, Mr Bradbury and Mr Baudinette. The applicant was questioned by his counsel concerning the events of that afternoon:
"When you walked in, Mr McCormick, how was the meeting arranged? Did you all sit around a table? - Yes.
Who sat on what side? Who was next to who? - I sat on one side with Mr Bradbury beside me and opposite on the other side of the table was Mr Baudinette and Mr Marris.
Did any of Mr Marris, Bradbury or Baudinette have pens and paper with them for taking notes of what was said? - No.
Did any of Marris, Bradbury or Baudinette have, as far as you could see, papers with them? - No.
Were there any papers on the desk, Mr McCormick? - No.
Were there any envelopes on the desk? - No, definitely …
During the meeting were you given, by any of those three men, Marris, Bradbury or Baudinette, a piece of paper or an envelope? - No."
112 The applicant said that the meeting had taken something of the order of half an hour to three-quarters of an hour. He said that he had been called in to the meeting at the behest of Mr Marris who explained what CHH were going to do regarding the packaging side of the business. Mr Marris had said that it was to be downgraded completely. In New Zealand CHH did not have a systems division of the kind which Riverwood had developed. They had just one or two employees, and used outside contractors to do most of the work. That was the course which CHH proposed to follow after it assumed control of the cartons business. Mr Marris had also told the applicant that there were only going to be a total of four vacancies for the packaging systems work in New South Wales and Victoria combined. Under Riverwood there had been approximately sixteen employees carrying out the services work for Packaging.
113 The applicant said that Mr Marris had asked him how he felt about the proposed set-up. When asked what his response had been, the applicant said:
"I told him if he wanted the truth or not. He said, "Yes, we want to discuss it." I told him I wasn't happy with the way things had been done in that I believed when Mr Kidd was out or away, that they were talking to Chris Baudinette which I considered sort of behind Mr Kidd's back because I always thought we had to go through the chain of command, and for my position, I was leading hand in the workshop, but they had already spoken to the other three people that were under me in the workshop without saying a word to me. I also expressed the opinion that I didn't think that it would last 12 months the way they were setting it up because we - as I say, when I first started there, there was only Mr Kidd and myself and we built it up, and I believe talking to sales people and that, they were of the opinion that a lot of the contracts we got for the cartons, being able to offer our back-up as a systems division, helped them get some of the contracts, and I just told Mr Marris that, you know, in my opinion our big customers, some of our big customers, wouldn't accept people not being available to help them and I couldn't see the division as they wanted to set it up, lasting 12 months."
114 The applicant said that Mr Marris had acknowledged that the applicant was entitled to his opinion, but that was the way in which CHH were going to conduct the business in the future. After Mr Marris had indicated that this was the course which would be followed, he told the applicant that there were four positions originally. Three had been filled, and there was one position left. Mr Marris said:
"There's one vacancy. If you see fit to apply for that vacancy I will then discuss it with Mr Baudinette."
115 The applicant was also told that if he were successful in getting the job he would probably have to do some computer courses so that he could handle spare parts from overseas, and that side of the business. It was at that point, the applicant said, that he asked Mr Marris:
"Is this a job offer and will it have any effect on any redundancy package with Riverwood?"
116 According to the applicant, Mr Marris said that it was not a job offer and that the question of redundancy had nothing to do with him. That was a matter for Riverwood.
117 The applicant told Mr Marris that he would get back to him in relation to the matters discussed, and then left the boardroom. Prior to leaving the boardroom he was not given any envelope, or any other paper. The applicant said that by the end of the meeting, he had decided that he would not turn up for work at CHH on the following Monday even though he had earlier thought that he would so do.
118 The applicant returned to a break-up barbecue which was being held in the workshop. He spoke to Mr Baudinette again later that afternoon. Mr Baudinette gave him an envelope which contained some pamphlets and other promotional material concerning CHH. There was no letter of offer or any other such document in the envelope.
119 Over the weekend the applicant decided to turn up to work on the Monday but solely in order to complete a backlog of tasks which were outstanding at the time of the sale. Subsequently, the applicant informed Mr Baudinette by telephone that he had decided not to take up employment with CHH.
120 Mr Baudinette was called in support of the applicant's case. He said that he had been approached by Mr Marris sometime in March 1998 and offered a position with CHH. Mr Marris had asked him to prepare a proposal regarding the future of the Packaging Systems Division, and he had done so. That proposal envisaged a substantial reduction in the number of employees engaged in servicing work. Mr Baudinette proposed that two Packaging employees, Mr Busscher and Mr Waites, be offered positions with CHH. Mr Busscher accepted an offer to join CHH, but Mr Waites decided to stay with Riverwood.
121 Mr Baudinette then gave an account of the meeting on the afternoon of 27 March 1998. His recollection was that at some point during that meeting Mr Marris had taken a letter out of an envelope, and given it to Mr Bradbury. Mr Baudinette had not previously seen the letter to which he referred.
122 The applicant had been approached by Mr Baudinette only after Mr Waites had rejected the offer made by CHH. Mr Baudinette had discussed with Mr Marris the question of an approach to the applicant. Mr Baudinette said in relation to his discussion with Mr Marris:
"My recollection was that we would get together to have a meeting and discuss whether we could assess his criteria to suit the position. Mr Marris' job was to basically provide the offer of employment for this next position. He wanted to make sure that we did employ the right person; that we went through the right process."
123 Mr Baudinette regarded the position which was under consideration as being different from the position which the applicant had previously occupied as foreman or leading hand. He was asked to describe the difference between the applicant's previous duties, and the position that might be available. He replied:
"Yes, the position that was required to fill was a joint service role plus spare parts purchasing which had currently been done out of the head office in Sydney and the person, Mr Malcolm King, had been made redundant and I had to try to fill that position with someone who could purchase, and negotiate with customers from overseas. That was something that Mr McCormick had never done before, well, not to my knowledge had done before, and it was also importing machines, just having do duty calculations. It was a significantly more important position."
124 Had the applicant taken on that new position, he would, in Mr Baudinette's opinion, have required significant additional training.
125 Mr Baudinette was asked what he understood to be the purpose of the meeting that he attended on 27 March. He replied:
"It was a discussion for Gary to meet Mr Marris, for Mr Marris to be comfortable if we were to offer a position. That was why I asked Gary to attend the boardroom to meet and we were going to discuss the criteria of the different position."
126 Mr Baudinette disagreed completely with Mr Marris' explanation that the purpose of the meeting was to offer the applicant a job. Mr Baudinette insisted that he had no idea prior to the meeting that Mr Marris had a letter of offer with him. The only time that he knew that this was the case was after the applicant had left the meeting when Mr Marris first produced the letter of offer and the information booklet, took the letter out, and gave it to Mr Bradbury. Mr Marris then gave the information booklet to Mr Baudinette. Mr Baudinette subsequently took the information booklet with him, and gave it to the applicant in the workshop.
127 Mr Baudinette also recalled a conversation with the applicant immediately prior to the meeting:
"Gary asked me would it affect his redundancy, and as I stated here, I basically said I felt to my knowledge it wouldn't affect his redundancy and that only if we offered him a job, but this was not a job interview as such. It was merely a discussion. An informal discussion to meet Mr Marris."
128 Mr Baudinette insisted that throughout the meeting, while the applicant was present, no papers or envelopes were produced by Mr Marris. Mr Marris made no offer of a job with CHH. After the applicant left the meeting there was a discussion concerning his suitability for the position. Mr Baudinette said to Mr Marris that he did not believe that the applicant qualified for the job, and that he would have to readvertise it. Mr Marris had agreed that this was the appropriate course to follow.
129 Mr Marris gave evidence on behalf of the respondent. His recollection of the events of 27 March 1998 was significantly different from that of the applicant and Mr Baudinette.
130 Mr Marris said that after Mr Waites had declined a position with CHH he recalled discussing with Mr Baudinette what should be done. It was at that stage that the applicant's name came up for consideration. Mr Baudinette had said that the applicant had the technical skills to perform the role in question. He might, however, need a small amount of training. The new position was not significantly different from that which the applicant had previously occupied with Packaging.
131 Referring to the meeting of 27 March 1998, Mr Marris understood that its purpose was simply to make the applicant an offer of employment. He had prepared for the meeting by putting together the appropriate documentation to enable such an offer to be made. That included a standard letter of offer made to all employees. The letter set out the terms and conditions of employment or transfer to CHH. Mr Marris had been unable subsequently to find the original, but he said that the letter would have been similar to a standard letter of offer used for all employees.
132 Mr Marris said he had the letter of offer with him in an envelope with the applicant's name on it. The envelope also contained an annual report, a company brochure and another document. Mr Marris recalled having discussed the particular position under consideration with the applicant. He said:
"During the discussion Mr McCormick was quite incensed and somewhat bitter in respect of how he and other people from Riverwood Packaging Systems had been treated through the acquisition process."
133 Mr Marris said that had the applicant joined CHH, the company would have recognised the applicant's previous thirty-seven years' employment as giving rise to a potential redundancy entitlement.
134 Mr Marris was then asked the following questions:
"You said that you intended to make him an offer. Did you make him an offer of employment? - Yes.
What did you say to him? - The issue or the process that took place, I had an envelope on the table in front of me, it had the letter of offer and everything in it. I then moved the letter in front of me and I said to him, "Look, the only issue I have is I need you to get your head around whether you do or you don't want to work for Carter Holt Harvey," because he had said in our discussions, "I'm not sure if I want to work" for us and it was related to how he perceived the treatment of people through the acquisition process. I said to him it was important that he managed to get his head around and separate the issues. If he wanted to work for Carter Holt Harvey there was definitely a job for him. All he need to do was the following, and I took the envelope, I removed the letter of offer from it, I had the envelope on my right, I passed the letter to my left where John Bradbury was sitting. I then passed the balance of the envelope across the table and said, "I'll give you the rest of the pack about Carter Holt Harvey over the weekend. I would like you to think about the fact that if you would like to work for Carter Holt Harvey then all you have to do on Monday is ring up John Bradbury or Chris Baudinette and say, "I would like the job", and the job is yours."
What did McCormick say in response to that? - He said he would consider it and he took the envelope."
135 Mr Marris agreed that the applicant had asked him during the earlier part of the interview whether his redundancy with Riverwood would be affected. Mr Marris had replied that the redundancy at Riverwood had nothing to do with him. He told the applicant that he had no authority to act on behalf of Riverwood. The redundancy was something the applicant himself needed to address with Riverwood. Mr Marris had no recollection of the applicant having asked him whether he was being offered a job prior to asking whether his redundancy would be affected He denied the suggestion put to him that he had said that no job offer was being made, and that he had merely said:
"If you see fit to apply for that vacancy I will discuss it with Mr Baudinette."
136 Mr Bradbury was also present at the meeting of 27 March 1998, and was called on behalf of the respondent. He was first asked about his understanding of the third Redundancy Agreement between MPP and the PKIU. He said that he regarded that agreement as binding in honour only, and not as having created any legal obligations of any kind.
137 He was then asked about the meeting of 27 March 1998. He said that he understood that the purpose of the meeting was to offer the applicant a position. He knew that a letter of appointment had been prepared. He had seen that letter of appointment. He continued as follows:
"I want to take you to the meeting. What did Mr Marris say at the outset of the meeting about the position? - He indicated that the purpose of the meeting was to talk to Gary and offer Gary the position; that it was his belief through Chris Baudinette and myself that Gary was capable of carrying out the position and that he also referenced the fact that there would be some in-house training required to fulfil the clerical and administrative side. He did not see that as a problem and that the main purpose of the thing was to talk to Gary and offer him that position on that day.
Did Mr Marris say what the terms and conditions would be? - He indicated to Gary that there would be no change in his terms and conditions and he would swap over from Riverwood to - from Riverwood Packaging to Carter Holt Harvey Cartons under the terms and conditions of employment.
You mentioned there was a letter of appointment, was it contained in anything? - It was in an envelope, standard envelope, yes.
Did you see the envelope during the discussion? - Yes, I did.
Did Mr Marris at any stage pick up the envelope? - Yes, he put it down in front of him when he was discussing the position with Gary - he had it in front of him."
138 Mr Bradbury continued:
"At the time he did that, did he say anything to Mr McCormick? - I just indicated to Gary that that was the standard letter or letter of appointment for him."
139 Mr Bradbury further continued:
"What did Mr McCormick say as to the offer of working with CHH? - Gary indicated that he was a bit annoyed about the way some of his fellow Packaging Systems people had been treated and indicated that he wasn't really certain that he wanted to work with Carter Holt Harvey.
What was his attitude that he displayed towards CHH when expressing those views? - Gary was feeling fairly angry, I thought.
What did Mr Marris say in response to McCormick's complaints? - He indicated to Gary that what he really wanted was team players and that he required people to have a commitment to the team to join it. As such, that he wasn't really prepared to have him sign the letter or put the letter across to him for signature unless Gary got his head around the prospect of actually working for Carter Holt Harvey.
Did Mr Marris say what Mr McCormick had to do? - Well, it was a Friday. The meeting was on a Friday. So he indicated to Gary that he felt it was best that if he wasn't sure, that he should go away, he should think about it over the weekend and then come back to either Chris Baudinette or myself on the Monday and indicate to either of us his preparedness to start work with Carter Holt Harvey or not.
Did Mr Marris indicate what would occur if he indicated his preparedness to work for CHH? - Just indicated that he could sign the letter, that he would be employed.
Now, did Mr Marris ever take the letter out of the package? - Not to my knowledge."
140 Mr Bradbury also recalled that the applicant had asked about his redundancy. The applicant had been told by Mr Marris that he had no authority to talk about redundancy in terms of Packaging.
141 Mr Bradbury was adamant that Mr Marris had in fact offered the applicant a job at the meeting. Mr Marris had not, however, given the applicant the letter of offer which had been prepared. His recollection was that Mr Marris had handed him the envelope which he, Mr Bradbury, had put into his bag.
142 Some days later Mr Baudinette had told him that the applicant had spoken to Mr Baudinette on the Monday, and indicated that he did not wish to take up the position with Carter Holt Harvey.
143 There is one important difference between the applicant's position, and that of the other persons present at the meeting. The applicant made notes of what he says occurred at the meeting. I accept the applicant's evidence that these notes were made within hours, or days, of that meeting having taken place, at a time when the events were fresh in his mind. A typed version of those notes, prepared by the applicant, was tendered by the respondent during the course of cross-examination of the applicant (transcript 96). Notwithstanding some inconsistencies between the applicant's testimony and what is set out in the notes, they seem to me generally to support the applicant's version of what occurred at the meeting.
144 The notes are received as evidence of the truth of their contents. Where evidence of a prior inconsistent statement is tendered to impugn the credibility of a witness, the statement is now also evidence of what is asserted in it - Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) ss 43 and 60.
145 It is these notes which tip the balance in favour of my accepting the accuracy of the applicant's recollection, rather than that of Messrs Marris and Bradbury. Those gentlemen were not asked to recollect in detail the events of 27 March 1998 until some time in 1999. Though Mr Marris impressed me as a witness with a better than average memory, I am sceptical as to his capacity to recall with precision what had occurred approximately a year earlier at a meeting which would not have been of any particular significance to him.
146 To the extent that the recollections of the applicant and Mr Baudinette conflict with those of Messrs Marris and Bradbury, I prefer the account given by both the applicant and Mr Baudinette. Mr McCormick impressed me as a witness of truth throughout. Although I have some reservations about the reliability of Mr Baudinette's evidence on some matters, I found his evidence concerning the meeting of 27 March 1998 to be truthful and credible.
147 I should say that I think that it is likely that prior to the commencement of the meeting Mr Marris intended to offer the applicant a position with CHH. However, faced with the applicant's uncooperative and aggressive demeanour, it is probable that Mr Marris changed his mind, and elected not to make him that offer, at least on that day.
148 I am unable to accept Mr Marris' explanation for not having handed the applicant the letter of offer prepared beforehand. It seems improbable to me that Mr Marris adopted that course in order to instil in the applicant a need to take a positive initiative, and to demonstrate his resolve in desiring to join CHH. It is more likely that Mr Marris simply decided to withhold the letter of offer until the applicant had an opportunity to consider the situation, and to make up his mind whether he wished to work for CHH. In making this finding I do not suggest that Mr Marris was not a witness of truth; rather that his recollection of the meeting may have been the product of an inaccurate reconstruction in his mind some months after the events in question.
149 It follows from these findings of fact that it is unnecessary to consider the nature and scope of any possible qualification to the applicant's redundancy entitlement arising from his having refused an offer of employment with CCH. If no such offer was made, the applicant could not have lost any such entitlement by declining to seek a position with CHH. It is unnecessary, therefore, to determine whether such an entitlement would be lost merely by reason of an offer having been made, as the respondent submitted, or whether the applicant would still, in those circumstances, have been entitled to a redundancy payment, as the applicant submitted.
150 It is also unnecessary to consider either the applicant's contention that the silence of Mr Bradbury at the meeting of 27 March 1998 operated as an estoppel against the respondent, or his alternative contention that Mr Bradbury's silence was misleading or deceptive conduct which would afford the applicant relief under s 52 of the Trade Practices Act.
151 The applicant is entitled to succeed in this application. He is entitled to have judgment in the amount of $76,435.74. The respondent must pay the applicant's costs.
I certify that the preceding one hundred and fifty-one (151) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment herein of the Honourable Justice Weinberg.