The question, however, of the disposition of the shares in Elder Smith & Co. Limited I have found much more difficult. If one might lawfully place upon the paragraph of the will bequeathing 196 shares in Elder Smith & Co. Limited to the testator's wife a meaning designating the 196 shares in that company which the testator held at the date of the will, it would not be difficult, beginning with that gift, to treat the subsequent re-subdivision of the capital into £1 shares paid up to 12/- as an alteration in denomination and number which did not so change the property in substance as to affect what otherwise would have been the operation of the bequest. Thus where a testator specifically bequeathed shares that he held in a named company and after the date of the will and before the death of the testator the shares in the capital of the company were divided so that in exchange for each of the original shares four new shares were allotted of a quarter of the denomination, Swinfen Eady J. found the "shares bequeathed by the will changed in name and form only, but substantially existing in their subdivided form and each original share traceable into its four subdivided shares. The subject-matter of the bequest remains in substance, though changed in name and form. There is therefore no ademption": In re Clifford; Mallam v. McFie [1] . Neville J. went somewhat farther in In re Leeming; Turner v. Leeming [2] . That testator had bequeathed by his will 10 £4 fully paid shares in a company. Before he died the company was reconstructed; a new company was incorporated under the same name and took over the undertaking in exchange for shares distributed by the liquidator to the shareholders. For every £4 share in the old company the testator became the holder of two £5 preference shares and two £5 ordinary shares in the new company. Neville J. said: "I think that the shares in the new company are really in substance the same as the shares in the old company and represent the specific bequest. The subject-matter of the bequest remains, though changed in number and form. There has been a dissolution of that company and a new company has taken its place, but in substance it is the same company. It seems to me that the amount of the testator's interest in the old company remains and is represented by the shares in the new company and is practically the same, and is changed in name and form only. I think, therefore, that there has been no ademption, and that the legatee is entitled to the shares in the new company." [1] To the like effect is the later decision of Roxburgh J. in In re O'Brien dec'd.; Little v. O'Brien [2] . The foregoing, however, is all upon the postulate that the bequest of 196 shares expressed in the will refers to the particular shares the testator then held. But can that postulate be made good? If the question had arisen in England before the Wills Act, 1837 it may be supposed that the ordinary rules governing the interpretation of wills with respect to bequests of personal property would not have been regarded as standing in the way of the conclusion that the 1,960 shares stood in the place of the 196 shares and passed to the beneficiary to whom the latter had been bequeathed. That is because, as I understand it, there was nothing artificial about the principle by which, as the law then stood, a disposition of personal property might, according to its meaning, cover personal property which had been acquired after the will had been made but before the death of the testator. So far as I am aware, it was all a question of ascertaining the meaning of the testator as expressed in the testamentary instrument. See per Jessel M.R. in Bothamley v. Sherson [3] . Of course devises stood in a very different position. A fee simple acquired after the date of a will could not be carried by a devise contained in the will. But s. 24 of the Wills Act, 1837, forming one of the provisions directed primarily at the reform of the law relating to disposition of realty by will, was expressed in terms governing both devises of realty and bequests of personalty. Section 24 of the Wills Act, 1837, which is reproduced in s. 27 of the South Australian Wills Act, 1936, in an attempt to bring real property and personal property under an identical rule in this respect, uses language which seems to require an artificial recourse to the death of the testator as the point of time at which the provisions of the will are to be construed. The section provides that every will shall be construed with reference to the real and personal estate comprised in it to speak and take effect as if it had been executed immediately before the death of the testator, unless a contrary intention shall appear by the will. If an instrument is literally and in all relevant respects construed as if it were written at a subsequent date, perhaps a date far removed from actual contemporary circumstances, it needs no argument to show that a strange and artificial meaning may be produced. This was seen by Mr. Jarman who, after explaining the meaning and effect of the provision on realty, made this observation (2nd ed. (1855) p. 269): "The application of the new principle of construction to specific bequests, however, is attended with more difficulty, and will, in all probability, give rise to much controversy and litigation, before its precise limits and effect are fully established." The learned editors of the second edition, one of them being Mr. Wolstenholme, refer (p. 271) to the possibility of two constructions which may be put upon the 24th section, "namely, whether we are first to transfer the date of the will to the day of the death, and then see what property the words refer to; or whether, on the contrary, we are first to see what property the words refer to (remembering that words of general description include in themselves after-acquired property) and then transfer the will to the date of the death. It is obvious that the first construction makes the words include not only a different interest in the same subject, but also a different subject answering the same description, while the latter makes the words include only a different interest in the same subject. The latter is conceived to be the true construction." This distinction does not appear to have been taken up judicially and examined or applied in all the time that has elapsed, but if it represents the law it would bear upon the present case. It would mean that the words of the will are to be read as at the date when the testator wrote them in order to see to what property they refer, remembering that words of general description include in themselves after-acquired property. That having been done, the will so applied would then be transferred to the date of the death of the testator. So considering them, it would appear an obvious inference that the testator was referring specifically to 196 shares which he held. He referred to them in language specifically descriptive of 196 shares as they then existed although he did not, by the use of the word "my" or any other expression, tie them specifically to the very parcel of shares which he held, but there can be no doubt that it was to that parcel he was referring. As a matter of ordinary interpretation it would seem the natural conclusion to draw from the fact that after dealing with the specific bequests, among which he included directions as to those particular shares, he goes on to speak of the whole of the residue of his estate. It would seem that he was making a specific bequest and not giving a general legacy to be possibly satisfied by the 196 shares in Elder Smith & Co. Limited. For such a general legacy would come out of what otherwise would be the residue, and plainly in his devise and bequest of the whole of the residue he is speaking of what remains after the bequests with which he has already specifically dealt. The foregoing approach to the present case finds less justification in the case law that has developed than it does in the views which Mr. Jarman's editors adopted within a few years of the passing of the Act and I have entertained accordingly no little doubt as to the actual conclusion which it is now proper to reach. What seems at present to be the recognized and orthodox approach to such a question is to begin with the hypothesis that, unless a contrary intention can be found in the will, s. 24 requires the construction of the bequest as speaking and taking effect as if it had been executed immediately before the death of the testator. This means, of course, "with reference to the real estate and personal estate comprised in it": not for all purposes. Further, the interpretation of these words adopted by Turner L.J. (as he afterwards became) in Lady Langdale v. Briggs [1] , is applied. They mean that, so far as the will comprises dispositions of real and personal estate, the dispositions are to be construed as speaking and taking effect as if the will had been executed immediately before the death of the testator. But all that operates only "unless a contrary intention shall appear by the will". What, therefore, is to be looked for is the indication of a contrary intention. If the bequest in question is seen to be specific it suffices as an indication of a contrary intention. But there is a traditional leaning to construing a bequest as a general legacy and not a specific legacy and this applies to a bequest of shares as well as to a bequest of stock and bonds. It has been called sometimes a presumption and there are instances where it has not been outweighed by the possession by the testator, at the time when the will was made, of the very quantity named by him, in the bequest, of the securities: cf. Robinson v. Addison [1] ; In re Willcocks; Warwick v. Willcocks [2] ; In re Gage; Crozier v. Gutheridge [3] . But it is a question of the meaning of the bequest and certainly the circumstance that the quantity of shares or other securities mentioned in the bequest coincides with the quantity then held by the testator must be a factor. "A general legacy has no reference to the actual state of the testator's property. It is a gift of something which, in the event of the testator leaving sufficient assets, must be raised by his executors out of his general personal estate. Whether or not anything forms part of the testator's personal estate is a pure question of fact, but whether or not it has been separated from the personal estate" (scil. so as to be specific) "depends upon the construction of the will which is a question of mixed law and fact or a pure question of law. Provided it has been separated, anything which was the property of the testator at the time of his death is capable of being specifically bequeathed and thus becoming a specific legacy.": Williams on Wills (1952) vol1, p. 148. What marks a bequest as specific is that its subject-matter is designated as something that does at the time of the will, or shall at the time of the death of the testator, form an identifiable part of his property and is, so to speak, distinguished by the intention of the testator as ascertained from his will to separate it in his disposition from the rest of his property for the purpose of bequeathing it as the distinct subject of a testamentary disposition. In In re Evans; Evans v. Powell [4] , Joyce J. in a passage that has since been cited more than once, says: "It is well settled that there may be such a specific description of the subject of a gift as to show that what was intended to pass, whether real or personal estate, was some particular thing in existence at the date of the will." His Lordship distinguishes such a case from a description which is general and he then proceeds: "and where there is such a particularity in the description of the subject of a gift as to show that it was some object in existence at the date of the will that was intended to pass, it is considered that there is sufficient evidence of a contrary intention to exclude the application of the provisions of s. 24" [5] .