"What you were worried [about] was the thing around her neck, wasn't it?---Not in particular, no. I was worried about the whole thing.
You took hold of the bathrobe tie, you took that out of the gown?---Yeah, I grabbed that. Yep.
When you did that Dianne wasn't in a position to resist, was she?---I can't recall exactly.
Well, by that stage she wasn't fighting back, was she?---There was a - I can't say no for certain, yeah.
She was on the ground, wasn't she?---Yeah, we were both on the ground. Yep.
No. She was on the ground, you got the bathrobe tie?---Yeah, I was also on the ground.
Then you tied it round twice. Is that right? Her neck?---Yep.
But after you tied it once you put a knot in it?---That's incorrect, no.
You remember we've heard from John Sinclair?---Yeah, I remember that.
About there being more than knot [sic]?---Yep.
And he told us underneath was a double knot. Do you remember that knot?---That's simply not true. No.
You seem to remember there wasn't a second knot?---I remember the knot that I did as I left, as I walked off, which was to me a bow.
You put the tie around her neck so you could pull on it, didn't you?---Like I said before, I was trying to - I was just trying to scare her, you know?
You were trying to strangle her, weren't you?---I was trying to - I was trying to give her a fright, I was trying to scare her.
You told the police you were trying to strangle her and you told us earlier that you were trying to strangle her?---Well, yeah, that was - it wasn't my intention to strangle her, you know, for any amount of time, I just wanted to scare her.
You put the rope - the tie around her neck and you pulled it tight?---Yeah.
And that's because you were trying to strangle her?---It's because I was just trying to give her a fright, trying to scare her.
It was tight, wasn't it?---Yeah, I think [it] was. Yes.
Do you remember John Sinclair told us that he had difficulty getting the knot out and he couldn't get his fingertips under the tie?---I remember that, yeah.
It was as tight as that, wasn't it?---I don't know.
You pulled it tight so she couldn't breath [sic]?---No, it wasn't my intention. No.
But that's what you do. Do you agree?---Yeah, that's what's happened, yeah.
And that's what you were trying to do. You were trying to strangle her?---No, I wasn't trying to strangle her; no, no.
Mr Leyshon, what do you say you were trying to do?---I was trying to - it was during a heated fight. We'd both been fighting and I just wanted to, like, scare her, you know.
Did you ask her if she was scared afterwards?---I just walked off. As soon as I did that I walked off.
Because it was finished?---I don't know. I don't know.
What, you wrapped the tie around her neck. You tied it tight, you pulled on it. You kept the pressure on it?---Not for any considerable amount of time, no, that I remember.
Dianne by that stage was unconscious, wasn't she?---I don't know. I don't know that for sure, no.
Didn't you tell the police that?---Yeah, I believe I did but I couldn't tell for sure.
Or was it just that you'd finished things off and it was time to leave?---No, that wasn't the case; no."