132 Mr Camp said he had never read the witness statements and neither did the journalists. A journalist was not going to sit down and read through it all. It was pretty sensational stuff in the statements but quite precisely what, he did not know. He said "it was always in the papers, this business". He had not discussed with Mrs Rinehart the contents of the witness statements, but he said that, for instance, the allegation that Mrs Hancock had hastened Lang's death had been in the newspapers on three or four occasions before it was published in the Eastern States on this occasion. There was nothing new in any of it, but even if there was he would not have known. He was interviewed that day by Mr Paul Murray and did not try to say anything against Mrs Porteous in any way, shape or form. He had been in the Coroner's Court when Mr Hayes was seeking to read the chronology and when the Coroner had said no. He had given it to the reporters as a summary to assist them to be prepared in due course when the Inquiry came on. The better prepared they were, the better they could do their job, and from Mrs Rinehart's perspective, not get things wrong. He said he had not at any point planned for it to be published. He did not give it to them on that basis. He sincerely believed that the journalists to whom he gave it knew that it was not going to be published. They had been in the Coroner's Court. It was not published in Western Australia. He had believed that Mr Reardon had been there. He assumed when Mr Reardon rang that he had been in the Court because how else could he have known straight away that it was available, if he had not been there. The legal team was led by Mr Peter Hayes QC and the junior counsel was from Melbourne. He has since been made a Queens Counsel.