Q: In relation to who it was selling to?
A: Not necessarily as long as the sales were achieved.
Q: But you certainly knew roughly what sort of number of shoes in dollar terms it was selling each year to the Boulevard, didn't you?
A: Yep.
Q: From that knowledge of both Nobule's operations and the Boulevard's operations --
A: Yes
Q -- you would have been able to roughly estimate what proportion of Nobule's production was being taken by Boulevard each year?
A: Yes, I could have.
Q: Would it be fair to say that if you just cast your mind back to 1990, that the Boulevard took a certain percentage of Nobule's production that year?
A: 1990, yeah.
Q: And in 1989 a similar percentage?
A: I don't know about a similar percentage but I would - yeah, could have been more, could have been less, I don't know.
Q: We are not talking about wild fluctuations --
A: No.
Q: -- are we?
A: I don't think so.
Q: And similarly, 1988?
A: Yeah.
Q: 1987?
A: Yes.
Q: 1986?
A: Mmm.
Q: And 1985?
A: Yes.
Q: So that during the years, financial years from 1985 through to, say, 1990, the Boulevard Shoe Store would purchase approximately a similar percentage of Nobule's production, is that right?
A: It's a bit hard to judge really because there were seasons that you would buy more and seasons that you would buy less. If the goods were selling, you'd buy more; if they weren't selling, you'd by less.
Q: That would account for the fluctuation of 10 percent or more, but not less, would you expect?
A: Oh, could be more, could be more with any manufacturer.
Q: Are you able to give us an estimate in your opinion for the financial year, the year ending 30 June 1995 [sic but mistake for 1985], of the percentage or proportion of Nobule's production of shoes that was taken by the Boulevard?
A: No idea.
Q: Would it be 0.1 percent?
A: No, it would be more than that.
Q: Would it be 99 percent?
A: No way.
Q: Now you must have some idea, being involved with both companies?
A: That was the early days, 85, I really don't know what percentage.
Q: Let's try the other end, 1990, for example. During the year ended 30 June 1990, are you able to give us a rough estimation as to your opinion of the percentage of Nobule's production purchased by Boulevard?
A: No, I don't know.
Q: Would it be 1 percent?
A: I really don't know. It would be more than 1, have to be.
Q: Could it be 50 percent?
A: I don't think so.
Q: Now I will just show you from the bar table a computer print-out?
A: Mmm.
Q: Which has as its first page a heading, "The Boulevard Shoe Store Proprietary Limited" and it is dated 11/11/1988. Have you seen that bundle of computer print-outs before?
A: Briefly, yes.
Q: Are you able to tell the court that this green folder that I am holding that contains the computer print-out contains the Boulevard Shoe Store Proprietary Limited annual trial balances?
A: I think it would.
Q: Also it's[sic] annual general ledger?
A: I think so too.
Q: If I was to suggest to you that in the year ended 30 June 1988 that the Boulevard Shoe Store Proprietary Limited purchased a total of $102,767.60 work [sic] of stock from Nobule, would you agree with that?
A: In 19?.
Q: 1988.
A: Off the top of my head I can't remember.
Q: (Counsel approach.) I show you page 20 of the computer print-out that I have earlier held up for you?
A: Yeah.
Q: You see there that is the annual general ledger of the Boulevard Shoe Store Proprietary Limited from 1 July 1987 to 30 June 1988?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you see there that there is an entry, 30/6/88?
A: Yes.
Q: And next to that entry is the letter, "J"?
A: Yes.
Q: You understand that to refer to journal?
A: Now I do, yeah.
Q: You see there next to the number "62" are the words under the heading, "Nobule Proprietary Limited"?
A: Yes.
Q: "Purchased from Nobule 102,767.50?
A: Yes.
Q: You understand that to mean that in the financial year ending 30 June 1988, the Boulevard Shoe Store purchased $102,767.50 worth of stock from Nobule?
A: I presume so.
Q: If I was to tell you that in 1988 the total sales for the Boulevard Shoe Store were $205,865, would you agree that Nobule supplied about 50 percent of the Boulevard's total sales for that particular financial year?
A: Going by that figure, yes.
Q: You have no reason to doubt what I have put to you as being correct, do you?
A: Well no, not really.
Q: I show you another page from that same bundle of computer print-outs. You will see that that page is dated 18/10/91?
A: Yes.
Q: You will see that that is headed, "The Boulevard Shoe Store Proprietary Limited"?
A: Yes.
Q: "Page 19 annual general ledger"?
A: Mmm.
Q: You will that purports to be the annual general ledger from 1 July 1989 to 30 June 1990?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you tell this court that the figures contained in this document are accurate to the best of your knowledge?
A: To the best of my knowledge yes.
Q: And they are figures upon which you as a director of the company rely?
A: Mmm.
Q: Now those figures show, do they not, that for the year ended 30 June 1990, that there were purchases from Nobule of $136,091?
A: Yeah, that's what it says.
Q: That is true, isn't it?
A: I presume it would have to be true.
Q: If you can accept from me that the total sales made by Nobule for the year ended 30 June 1990 was $213,712.60 --
A: Mmm.
Q: -- do you agree that the Boulevard purchased approximately 63 percent of Nobule's production in that financial year?
A: Yes.
Q: I am not certain whether when I asked you percentages previously I might have misplaced the various companies.
A: Yeah, Mmm.
Q: I will put that again to you. If you accept that Nobule's total sales for the year ended 30 June 1988 were $205,865, then do you accept that the purchases made by the Boulevard of $102,767.50 comprise roughly 50 percent of Nobule's production?
A: Yes.
Q: So it is clear, isn't it, that in the years 1988 and 1990 that the Boulevard Shoe Store was purchasing at least half of Nobule's annual production?
A: Yes.
Q: That is a situation that had been occurring for some time, wasn't it?
A: No.
Q: But didn't you tell me before that when I took you back from 1990 through to 1985, you said roughly they purchased the same percentage, that is the Boulevard would purchase the same percentage --
A: Yes.
Q: -- of Nobule's production each year from 85 through to 1990?
A: I said roughly.
Q: That's what you said?
A: I said roughly.
Q: Now you see that it was as high as 63 percent in 1990, wasn't it?
A: It was.
Q: It was as high as 50 percent in 1988?
A: Yes.
16 The plaintiff/appellants' case as to sales not paid for or recorded or stolen stock really depends upon a finding that this passage contains an admission by Phillip that from 1985 on, the proportion of shoes sold by Nobule to Boulevarde in relation to total sales of Nobule was about 50 percent. I do not think the passage goes so far. It does in some way involve an acceptance of the figures of 1988, 1989 and 1990 which, according to the plaintiff, are incorrect as well. But leaving that aside, this evidence of a totally unreliable witness is in no way sufficiently certain to justify the conclusions the appellants claim from it.
17 I have endeavoured to deal with the matters which were argued by the solicitor for the appellants. In his careful argument I think that he put forward everything that could possibly have been put forward on behalf of the appellants. One cannot help being sympathetic towards them as it was I think never expected that the result the Master came to would be the result. However, it does seem to me that a lot of the argument put forward went to matters which might have been relevant had the valuation been required at the later date; and in fact it should be said that insofar as it relied on "wild fluctuations" to some extent the argument was based upon the later figures of Boulevarde purchases from Nobule as being correct.
18 It would, I think, have been possible to dispose of the appeal in the following way: