PART 12 - THE CROSS-EXAMINATION OF MRS STARIHA ON BEHALF OF MRS HART AND HART TRADING
496 Mrs Stariha was asked questions about her CV at Vol R2, Tab 13 (CTH-12) at p 224. Mrs Stariha had prepared this document (T, p 13, lns 26-27) to be sent to prospective employers (T, p 14, lns 1-2) who she accepted would rely upon the truth and accuracy of its contents (T, p 14, lns 4-6). Mrs Stariha was taken to her description of her first entry in her employment history which she puts in these terms:
EMPLOYMENT HISTORY
DECEMBER 2002 - PRESENT International Working Holidays
152 Middle Street, Cleveland QLD 4163
SELF EMPLOYED
Design and creation of own recruitment/travel business utilising contacts established in London during 2000-2002. Simply a business created allowing travellers to gain employment before leaving Australia, London and Canada before travel. Contacts include a network throughout Europe, USA, Canada, New Zealand, South Pacific and Australia. Visas, Travel itineraries supplied and accommodation booked for candidates before departure. Placements range from then 1 year to 4 years in duration.
Building business from inception to well established, profitable venture.
Developing systems in the short term with the objective to sell and earn passive income within 2 years.
October 2003 saw the opportunity to develop a network throughout the Pacific for charity volunteers. This involved a reconnaissance trip to the Solomon Islands forming business relationships and setting up the frame work for healthcare workers and teachers to help these communities.
January 2004 - I now have the opportunity to sell this business with an annual percentage earned.
497 Mrs Stariha accepted that the description in the document was incorrect or inaccurate "insofar as it says or indicates [Mrs Stariha was] employed by International Working Holidays" (T, p 14, lns 12-14). Mrs Stariha said that she had explained during her interview with Mrs Hart that this was the name of a "project" she was working on (T, p 14, lns 9-10). Mrs Stariha was then taken to an updated CV, created by Mrs Stariha, in about 2005 (T, p 14, lns 22-23) in which she describes her employment history concerning Café Addict Pty Ltd. In that entry, she says this:
EMPLOYMENT HISTORY
FEBRUARY 2004 - JULY 2005 Café Addict Pty Ltd
SELF EMPLOYED
Café Addict saw me start my own company with a view to owning four cafés within four years. It has always been a personal goal to own my own café chain in Brisbane. After purchasing an existing food business in Riverhills, converting it into a café concept over 12 months, realised the location was not suitable in the future. The business has recently been sold.
Building business from inception to well established, profitable venture.
Finalist in the South West News Casual Dining Award - recognised as being in the top five businesses in the south west area.
Operating own company, from stock inventory to taxation to payroll, autonomy and no support in this project. Managing a team of 8 staff.
498 Again, Mrs Stariha accepted that the statement "building business from inception to well-established, profitable venture" was included within the CV on the footing that those who received it would rely upon the "truth and accuracy of that statement" (T, p 14, lns 33-34). Mrs Stariha was taken to an email she sent to her accountant, Mr Reed, dated 19 May 2006 attaching, for tax purposes, income and expenses prepared by either her or her husband for four quarters of the relevant year with totals (T, p 16, lns 6-10). Mr Reed sent Mrs Stariha an email later on 19 May 2006 asking for information in order to finalise the "2005 tax return for your company". In a further email sent by Mrs Stariha on 19 May 2006 to Mr Reed's assistant, Mrs Stariha provided particular information and concluded her email by saying:
Thank you so much for your assistance. I will double check everything on the weekend and come back to you with those couple of things. I cringe every time I look at this - so disappointing.
499 Although the reference is to the tax for the financial year ending 30 June 2005 (in the attachment mentioned earlier), Mrs Stariha says that reading the emails of 19 May 2006 she believes that she would have assembled all the financial information by about 19 May 2006, handed it to the accountant and then taken time to go through the expenses with the result that the outcome, a loss, was "disappointing in the end" and caused her to "cringe at it [the 30 June 2005 performance]" (T, p 17, lns 20-27). Mrs Stariha said that she became aware that the business had suffered a loss once she got all her accounting details together. Mrs Stariha said that during 2005 the business operated on a predominantly cash basis and she had managed to pay all the bills from the takings. She said she did not believe that the business was then operating at a loss. Mrs Stariha said that at the time she applied to Frontline Retail for a retail position she thought that the Café Addict business had paid all the bills and had broken even. She says it was not until the following year that she realised the true position (T, p 18, lns 13-14).
500 Mrs Stariha was then taken to another version of her CV which she had created sometime after September 2006 (T, 19 lns 12-15). In that CV, Mrs Stariha continues to maintain the observation that she had built the Café Addict business from inception to a well established profitable venture.
501 Mrs Stariha accepted that at September 2006 she knew that the Café Addict business was not a profitable venture. She accepted that by then the statement was incorrect and that a reference to "profitable venture" in 2006 was "an incorrect statement" (T, p 19, lns 40-46).
502 As to the KPIs, Mrs Stariha accepted that compliance with the KPIs was "a guide" to success and that whilst an employee of Hart Trading she had done her "best" to meet the weekly KPIs (T, p 21, lns 25-28; T, p 22, lns 7-18).
503 As to the hours worked, Mrs Stariha accepted that the letter of 1 November 2005 set out the terms of her employment with Hart Trading and that the house to be worked were a minimum of 8.30am to 5.30pm from Monday to Friday and it was, she said, her practice to work those hours normally commencing at 7.45am and generally ending at 5.30pm although sometimes she worked from home with home access to the Frontline database which had occurred some months before Julstar purchased the Gold Coast franchise (T, 22 , lns 38-39; T, p 23, lns 18-23 and lns 38-39 and 45-46; T, p 24, lns 1-2). Mrs Stariha said that she would work about "a couple of hours" a week from home (T, p 24, lns 25-36), although after some time when working for Mrs Hart, Mrs Hart allowed her to work from home one day a week, working exactly the same hours but dialling in on home access.
504 As to the level of access, Mrs Stariha said that she had "consultant level" dial-in internet access to the Frontline database. The database operated in this way according to Mrs Stariha. Mrs Stariha had responsibility for "managed accounts". She would know each of the managed accounts because they would be entered into the Frontline database under her name, or as she put it, they would be "clicked in" for her. When she "clicked" the "managed accounts" report feature, that report would show the managed accounts under her name. To access prospective client accounts, those prospective clients would also have to be added into the database under Mrs Stariha's name. Mrs Stariha could look at the "job list" on the database to see the number of current positions or jobs available to be filled with placements. As to "new positions", they would fall under Mrs Stariha's KPI Report but only new positions "for myself under my KPI Report (T, p 25, lns 3-16; lns 21-25; lns 30-37). Mrs Stariha said that she could access the database to see the sales through a national sales report and, for example, could see the sales made by the Adelaide franchisee. However, she could not see the "number" of national placements unless she did a detailed report and then counted out the number of placements for herself. Mrs Stariha did not accept that she had "access to top level financial information for all franchises nationally". She said she did not have details of other franchisees because she was simply a consultant (T, p 26, lns 7-10).
505 Mrs Stariha accepted that when employed in the Brisbane office of Hart Trading, she had weekly meetings with Mrs Hart and that in October 2005 she was asked to commence work as the "sole retail consultant" for the Gold Coast Retail Agency (T, p 26, ln 30). Mrs Stariha did not accept the suggestion put to her that Mrs Hart showed her a spreadsheet from the "national reports" revealing that in the 2003 and 2004 financial years, the Gold Coast Frontline Retail Agency "was being conducted under Ellis Trading".
506 Mrs Stariha said she was excited about the opportunity to be the sole retail consultant at the Gold Coast and she ran the agency as sole consultant. For some time there was "an administrator there for a few months, Lisa" (T, p 27, lns 6-10). Mrs Stariha did not accept that she was the manager of the Gold Coast office (T, p 27, ln 12). In this context, Mrs Stariha said this (T, p 27, lns 17-30):
When I first spoke to Colleen, she said, "I would like you to go to the Gold Coast and you can manage it for me". And she said, "we will put the salary - at the time I was on $35,000 … I will pay you $50,000, and you will be the agency manager". Then I said, "I will go talk to Lee" … but I was excited. When I came back and I said, "yes, I will do it", she said, "by the way, I can't officially give you the title of agency manager because according to … Pete, … technically you are the only person there. … - you don't meet the criteria. The Gold Coast is new. "Who are you managing?" But in my eyes, you're the manager. But on your letter of offer, it will say "consultant". And I was fine with that. So in my eyes, for Colleen, I did my best. I managed it, but I did not have that title. I can't say that I was the agency manager.
507 Mrs Stariha accepted that although a presence on the Gold Coast only began in November 2005 the "Consultant Summary Report" for the period 28 August 2005 to 7 December 2006 accurately shows Gold Coast Retail placements by her to the value of $301,530.21 with replacements of $39,751.30 resulting in "placements" of $261,778.91 (or "$263,000 using round numbers") based on 96 placements relating to 38 clients. Mrs Stariha said that she had about "40 accounts on my report" (T, p 28, ln 24, lns 29-38; T, p 29, lns 17-20).
508 Mrs Stariha was the only consultant located on the Gold Coast making placements for clients on the Gold Coast although the Brisbane team from time to time made placements. Mrs Stariha believed that she built the Gold Coast Retail Agency over the 2005/2006 years "from the ground up" (T, p 30, lns 25-36). Mrs Stariha did not accept that by August and September 2006 Mrs Stariha was "looking to purchase" the Gold Coast Agency or that by August or September she was engaged in conversations with Mrs Hart regarding a purchase of the Gold Coast franchise. Mrs Stariha said that "it would be at the very end of September, first week of October - was the first time that we discussed me purchasing the business" (T, p 30, lns 44-46). Mrs Stariha says she recalls the conversation. Mrs Hart did not say that the next time they met she would bring with her a profit and loss statement for the Gold Coast Agency. Mrs Stariha says that at this first meeting with Mrs Hart she presented Mrs Stariha with two spreadsheets. Mrs Stariha did not accept that she had been speaking to Mrs Hart about purchasing a retail franchise "well before that meeting" (T, p 31, lns 1-12).
509 Mrs Stariha was taken to an email she sent to her husband's email address in order to print out material as she could not print documents in the office. In addition, the printer at home was not connected to the database and so Mrs Stariha would send emails with attachments which could be printed. The email is dated 9 August 2006 and attaches a client list for business development purposes. Mrs Stariha gave evidence that the idea was that she would identify clients or prospective clients that had leases in multiple shopping centres. The attachment had the names of clients or prospective clients down a left hand column with the shopping centres across the top. Mrs Stariha said that she was undertaking an exercise to try and develop a better client base so as to pick up better jobs and start billing as she had had "a lot of credits in a row" with the result that she was trying to "claw my way back with my sales".
510 Mrs Stariha did not accept that as at 9 August 2006 she "had in mind … acquiring the Gold Coast Retail franchise" (T, p 32, lns 10-11) or that, at this time, she was "laying the foundation for building upon the franchise" when or if she "acquired it" (T, p 32, lns 13-18). Mrs Stariha said that at this time she felt she was "failing", had become disappointed in herself and by September she was ready to leave.
511 The point of the 9 August 2006 document was that Mrs Stariha was "trying to get my sales back" (T, p 32, ln 33) and she "got nowhere near completing it" (T, p 32, ln 39). Mrs Stariha said that she had her managed account list to work upon. Each week when reviewing the KPIs with Mrs Hart, they would look at the "call cycle". Mrs Stariha wanted to "get a better focus list" to "pick up better jobs". The attachment to the 9 August 2006 email was, according to Mrs Stariha, taken from the Brisbane client list because those shopping centre clients were likely to have a site on the Gold Coast. It was an attempt to focus on prospective clients and "click them on" (T, p 33, lns 35-40). Mrs Stariha said that she was content to try and develop a client list from the shopping centre list "as part of [her] employment for Hart Trading" because she was "desperate" and she felt she was "failing the business at that time" (T, p 34, lns 8-10) (the email and attachment is Exhibit 6).
512 As to the meeting on 5 October or 6 October 2006, Mrs Stariha affirmed her evidence that Mrs Hart showed her a Gold Coast Agency spreadsheet for the 2005/2006 financial year and the 2006/2007 financial year (T, p 34, lns 46-47) and that at this meeting Mrs Hart said that the Frontline franchises were "cash cows and highly profitable". Mrs Stariha, in response to the proposition put to her that Mrs Hart did not say that "the Gold Coast Frontline Retail Agency would be profitable in the future" [emphasis added] said that Mrs Hart had said to her that "it would be profitable" [emphasis added]. When asked what the precise words were, Mrs Stariha said: "She said that they're highly profitable businesses". When the proposition was put to Mrs Stariha that Mrs Hart did not say that the Gold Coast Frontline Retail Agency "would be profitable in the future", Mrs Stariha said: "She used words to the [that] effect. Yes she did". This exchange then followed:
Q: Well, did she use those words or not?
A: Exactly? She said - well, she was talking about the EBIT precisely. So the fact that she was saying the number - it was profitable so …
Q: Did Mrs Hart say - on your meeting with her on 5 or 6 October 2006, did she say, "the Gold Coast Frontline Retail Agency would be profitable in the future" or "is going to be profitable in the future" or something like that?
A: No, she said, "Don't worry. It's - it's an $80,000 EBIT".
Q: Sorry, those were her exact words?
A: Words to that effect, yes.
Q: All right. But she didn't say, "this business is going to be profitable in the future?"
A: I do not have a transcript from the day, so I cannot say, absolutely, on oath, that she did not say those exact words. But the intent was that the business was profitable and will be.
Q: All right. And the intent that you draw is derived from, you mentioned before, the EBIT?
A: Yes.
[emphasis added]
513 Mrs Stariha was then asked if there was anything else said in the meeting that caused her to form the impression that the Gold Coast Retail Agency was going to be profitable in the future. Mrs Stariha said this:
Yes, because she was talking about the fact that she had had a look at it. The … profit was actually lower than what she expected, and she said "Don't worry. I've checked it. It's actually $80,000". And I asked her if it included the salary because I thought, "well that's not great" … I knew … the moment I looked at this spreadsheet, that I would have to borrow funds. And that was one [of] the first things I asked … "does that include the salary that I am already getting?" And she said, "No, it's … separate. You can employ a consultant if anything changes, and there is an 80k EBIT. I've checked".
514 Mrs Stariha was asked whether it was correct to say that her recollection of the conversation with Mrs Hart was that Mrs Hart had said that her accountant had told her that the business had EBIT earnings of $80,000 in addition to Mrs Stariha's $50,000 salary. Mrs Stariha said yes and said that Mrs Hart said she had "checked with the accountant". Mrs Stariha then said that she was trying to remember exactly if Mrs Hart made mention of the accountant at the meeting on 5 October or 6 October or whether it was at the next meeting. Mrs Stariha said this (T, p 36, lns 17-20):
[Mrs Hart] said she had checked with the accountant and it was during those two conversations - the two meetings initially with the spreadsheet, the first one and the second one, as to the 80K and the accountant.
515 Returning to the particular meeting on 5 October or 6 October 2006, this exchange occurred (T, p 36, lns 28-47; T, p 37, lns 1-3):
Q: Now, at that meeting do you agree with me that your best recollection of the conversation you had with Mrs Hart was that she said her accountant had told her the business had an EBIT of $80,000 in addition to $50,000 salary?
A: I definitely remember the 80K with the 50 on top. The accountant - the word "accountant" definitely on the 5th. I would say definitely between the two meetings the word "accountant" was used.
Q: We're only talking about one meeting?
A: Yes, I know. I'm answering the question. I can't say. I cannot say categorically.
Q: Can't be sure. This happened a long time ago. Memories fade?
A: No. Well, I remember precisely - there's a lot I remember about purchasing the business. I spent a lot of money.
Q: All right. And she did not say, you will agree with me, that you would achieve an EBIT of $80,000 in your first year as franchisee of the Gold Coast Frontline Retail Agency in addition to paying yourself a $50,000 salary. She didn't, on your case, use those words?
A: No, she pointed to it and she said, "it has an 80K EBIT and it has the 50K on top". She pointed to it. She didn't say that I would get it, but it was there.
Q: So, your recollection of that conversation was that she was talking about the current EBIT of the franchise, not future?
A: No. I took it to mean that if she was telling me that that's what it had got and I am purchasing it, that's what I would have.
[emphasis added]
516 This question of whether Mrs Hart said the words or said things which were to the effect of the words asserted by Mrs Stariha was examined further in these terms (T, p 37, lns 5-15):
Q: She didn't say to you that the retail agency would have in the future an EBIT of $80,000?
A: I believe that's what she meant, yes.
Q: Well, hang on, did she use those words?
A: I think she did, yes.
Q: Sorry, she did say …?
A: I think the words were to that effect.
Q: Well, okay, what words were to that effect?
A: That I would have - that the business generates an 80K EBIT. It is different to the spreadsheet. I'm looking at the spreadsheet, I'm looking at it and she said, "Don't worry, I've checked. It's actually 80K, it's not 50".
517 Mrs Hart has taken to the documents in Vol A1 at Tab 1A which contains two spreadsheets in the terms set out at [192] and [193]. Mrs Hart affirmed that those two documents are copies of the two documents shown and given to her at the meeting on 5 October or 6 October 2006. She believed them to be photocopies of those documents (T, p 37, lns 27-38). The spreadsheet for the 2006/2007 year did not contain any data beyond October 2006. The following exchange then occurred (commencing at T, p 37, ln 46 and concluding at T, p 38, lns 1-30):
Q: Now, you will agree with me then that when, in your case, Mrs Hart said that the retail agency had an EBIT of $80,000 she was talking about the current state of the business?
A: No, she said that if you buy it that, you know, don't worry, the business does an 80K EBIT.
Q: Okay. Were those her precise words?
A: Yes.
Q: She said to you, just so I'm clear on this, "Don't worry, the business has an 80K EBIT?
A: Yes.
Q: She used those words.
A: Yes.
Q: But … those words you say Mrs Hart said during that conversation, it has always been your belief that those words were said in fact during that conversation?
A: During conversations in October, yes.
Q: … Mrs Hart, during your conversation on 5 or 6 October 2006 did not say the value of the retail agency is $240,000?
A: Not that day, no, because I had the week of guessing what the price will be.
518 Mrs Stariha accepted that Mrs Hart did not say in the initial meeting that there would be $10,000 of training from Frontline and nor did Mrs Hart say in the 5 October of 6 October 2006 that every Frontline franchise was successful. Mrs Stariha said that she was not thinking about things other than the fact that the total income in the financial year ending 30 June 2006 was $118,942.31 when she rather thought that the business had billed $200,000 and moreover, she says she had not seen any expenses of the business until the meeting and until she saw the spreadsheet reciting some expenses. Mrs Stariha says that the discussion was more about the franchises being "highly profitable". Mrs Stariha accepted that her recollection of the 5 October or 6 October 2006 meeting was that "Mrs Hart did not say every Frontline franchise was successful or words to that effect" (T, p 39, lns 8-9). Mrs Stariha believed that it was at the second meeting that Mrs Hart said that "no franchise had ever failed" (T, p 39, lns 19-21).
519 As to the second meeting, Mrs Stariha affirmed her evidence of her recollection of a second meeting about a week after the first meeting which, in Mrs Stariha's view, puts the second meeting at 12 October 2006. Mrs Stariha gave evidence that there was no talk of a purchase price on 5 October or 6 October 2006 because she recalls that she was "guessing with my husband for a week" and she had "no idea how much it would cost" (T, p 39, lns 23-29).
520 Mrs Stariha was then taken to the email of 6 October 2006 at 6.07pm which she sent to her husband's email address (see [222], Exhibit 7). In that email, Mrs Stariha says that she has a price and she has seen the profit margin.
521 As to the timing of the 5 October or 6 October 2006 meeting, Mrs Stariha accepts that she did not keep notes of the meeting and says (T, p 40, lns 26-31):
… but what I had was a document that I started asking - a spreadsheet where I was looking at the possibility of the numbers. So - and that was the - the reason why I drew the conclusion it was on the 5th - I had two meetings - was because I had a document saved for the 4th and 5th - for 5 October … so I did make notes after.
522 Mrs Stariha says that during the last week of September an administrator called Rebecca was supposed to start employment but did not, and the meeting with Mrs Hart took place after the proposed new administrator "did a no show". Mrs Stariha says she remembers that event and has taken that into account in her recollection.
523 Mrs Stariha accepts that she did not send an email to Mrs Hart at the time confirming what Mrs Stariha says Mrs Hart had said during the conference.
524 Mrs Stariha also accepts that many years later when the retail franchise business began to fail in 2008 and 2009, she did not send Mrs Hart a letter or note asking her to explain why she had said the things on 5 October or 6 October 2006 she had said to Mrs Stariha.
525 Mrs Stariha also accepts that she did not send Mrs Hart any demand or complaint until Mrs Stariha filed these proceedings (T, p 41, lns 1-9).
526 Mrs Stariha, however, did not accept that she had first turned her attention to the October 2006 conversation with Mrs Hart in about late 2010 or early 2011. Mrs Stariha said that she had always maintained her recollection of the events because, "it was a big event for me buying a business for nearly a quarter of a million dollars" (T, p 41, lns 16-17). Mrs Stariha said that she has always had a recollection of the discussion and her recollection has never changed. Mrs Stariha explained that matter further in this way (T, p 41, lns 21-25):
... I think the first time that I actually started looking at it and piecing things together would have been when I realised the losses that I had, which would have been 2009. And I looked at the losses, and I was just looking at everything in front of me. And then I started looking at what had happened in the beginning.
527 Mrs Stariha said that she had some saved emails but it was more the fact that "I was looking at what went wrong" (T, p 41, lns 30-32).
528 Mrs Stariha said that in the first year she had a loss of $15 and in the next year a loss of $4,000 but could never explain to herself why she did not have the margin or the cash flow.
529 As to this question of piecing the events together in 2009, Mrs Stariha said that she did it from her "memory" but she also went to "my box of the documents that I held from when I bought the business". Mrs Stariha said that the spreadsheets assisted her recollection because they were the documents that she was given in October 2006. Mrs Stariha said that she knew it was the "end of September, early October" and recalled that the meeting with Mrs Hart took place after "Rebecca" failed to "show up" and then said it was "definitely the week before that" (although consistent with the earlier evidence mentioned, Mrs Stariha probably meant to say the week after Rebecca did not show up) (T, p 42, lns 6-10).
530 Mrs Stariha explained that it was "very easy to look at my box of purchase retail". Mrs Stariha said that she had a box with everything in it in relation to the purchase of the retail business. Mrs Stariha did not accept that her piecing together of the memory of the conversation she had with Mrs Hart in October 2006 was drawn from the contents of the box of documents. Mrs Stariha said that she drew her recollection of the events from her memory and that she remembers it "very clearly". Mrs Stariha said she did not have to turn to the box to remember what happened and in fact she did not have to "turn to the box at all". She said that "it was more a case of, 'There it is'" (T, p 42, lns 10-19). Mrs Stariha said that she was trying to find an answer to what had gone wrong in the business. She said that she knew, at the start of 2009, that she was "looking at a loss" and she knew it was going to be "a bigger loss". She then asked herself what had gone wrong and why she did not have the profitability (T, p 42, lns 27-31).
531 Counsel for Mrs Hart put the proposition to Mrs Stariha that Mrs Hart did not give her the two spreadsheets on 5 October or 6 October 2006. Mrs Stariha said this:
Well, she did because they're coloured. And the - they were the originals. I remember it distinctly. I cannot print colour from the office printer in the Gold Coast and I couldn't print them at home either. … If I printed them at home it would have come through the gmail - the bigpond we've got everywhere here. You would have a proof of it coming through.
532 Mrs Stariha explained that matter a little further in this exchange:
Q: So you're - the basis upon which you say those documents were handed to you during the meeting is that those documents are in colour, is that right?
A: No. It's the fact that they were the original, they're - you know, I look at them and they were the ones that I had. They are the original.
533 Mrs Stariha reasserts her evidence that in the 5 October or 6 October 2006 meeting Mrs Hart referred to the Frontline franchises as cash cows and as being highly profitable. She reasserted her evidence concerning the Gold Coast retail franchise having an EBIT of $80,000 and rejected the proposition that Mrs Hart told her of the calculation of the price in the way Mrs Hart describes. Mrs Stariha reasserted her evidence at the meeting on 5 October or 6 October 2006 was not the last time she spoke with Mrs Hart in person about the purchase.
534 Mrs Stariha accepted that the documents at Vol R2, Tab 32 are true copies of the Excel spreadsheet attached to Mrs Hart's email to her of 13 October 2006.
535 As to the meeting between Mrs Stariha and Mrs Hart at the coffee shop between 13 October and 18 October 2006, Mrs Stariha affirms her evidence that such a meeting occurred. She accepts that she did not take any notes of the meeting and that once she had spoken to Mrs Hart and obtained Mrs Hart's instructions, as Mrs Stariha describes, Mrs Stariha emailed her revised spreadsheet to her and asked her to make sure that it was right. Again, Mrs Stariha says that she has a very clear memory as to what happened on those particular days. Mrs Hart said that the first time that she sat down and wrote or typed out the events that happened between 13 October and 18 October 2006 "would have been in 2009" and prior to that she had not written down her recollections of the events (T, p 45, lns 15-21). As to these matters, Mrs Stariha says that she was relying on her memory and the documents in her box (T, p 45, ln 23). Mrs Stariha accepted that she cross-referenced what happened, with the documents in her box but "most importantly, she says she remembers the conversations". Again, she says that she was spending a lot of money and it was "a big deal to me at the time".
536 Mrs Stariha accepted that she did not raise with Mrs Hart any complaint about the things said by her in the conversation between 13 October and 18 October 2006 and said this (T, p 45, lns 39-42) about the reason for not doing so:
No, I didn't because the relationship with Colleen required that we needed to work in partnership. She was my neighbour. So to - in the interest of me to be able to do well in my business, we had to cooperate. So no, I didn't pick a fight while I was in there.
537 In response to the proposition that the meeting never happened, Mrs Stariha said that it did take place "because I received the spreadsheet, and then I went about correcting the spreadsheet and I knew … that Colleen was going to conference and then I double checked with her because, ultimately, I wanted to make sure that the figures were right" (T, p 45, lns 46-47; T, p 46, lns 1-2). Mrs Stariha said this (T, p 46, lns 4-6):
I couldn't justify to myself all the - that if the spreadsheet said "less than 80" and she was saying "it definitely does 80", I had an issue with that so I wanted to make sure.
538 As to Mrs Stariha's contention that Mrs Hart said the figures in the revised spreadsheet "looked right" but that Mrs Hart's bookkeeper might look at the figures, Mrs Stariha put her recollection in these terms (T, p 46, lns 11-18):
The recollection is that I said to her, "what do you think of my figures". She said, "They look right. You're very highly detailed". She was very - she was praising me. She thought it looked great. … She said, "Do you want me to get the bookkeeper to do it?" And I said, "Well, what was the point of getting her to do it? If you say they're right, I'm not going to wait".
539 Mrs Stariha agreed that her recollection was that Mrs Hart said that the figures in the revised spreadsheet "looked right" (T, p 46, lns 20-23).
540 The document that contained Mrs Stariha's figures put to Mrs Hart containing the "JJ checking" and "other expenses" the subject of the discussion between 19 October and 23 October 2006 is at Vol A1, Tab 1B. Mrs Stariha says that she conducted her own research into the expenses so as to double check them. She spoke to Ms Moseley about the expenses she might expect to incur. She added in other expenses she might expect to incur and made enquiries to satisfy herself of the "wider table" of expenses. Some of the expenses came from the original spreadsheets. Mrs Stariha's method was to take the date from the earlier spreadsheets and compare it with what she had been told by the "national office". Mrs Stariha put her efforts this way (T, p 47, lns 43-45):
What I wanted to do was get an accurate spreadsheet, so yes, I did the research and then I emailed it to Colleen saying, "please check and let me know if it's correct".
541 Mrs Stariha said that she was concerned about the original spreadsheet because she had been told by Mrs Hart that it was inaccurate and that the business was better than it appeared and Mrs Stariha was intending to base her decision on the "better result".
542 Mrs Stariha accepted that the revised spreadsheet contained "a lot of information" (T, p 48, ln 11) and gave this explanation of the exchange with Mrs Hart concerning it:
Q: How long do you say your conversation was with Mrs Hart when you were discussing the accuracy of this document?
A: I would say that I was in her office for a good - well, we spoke about that. We spoke about the price. I would say probably 15 minutes, 20 minutes.
Q: 15 minutes. And in that time did Mrs Hart independently verify each of the expenses?
A: She had already checked it. She told me she had already checked it.
Q: Well, no, in fact what she said was they looked right and then she added, but she wanted to get her bookkeeper to do up the figures?
A: No, she asked me if I wanted the bookkeeper to do it and I said, "Well, if you tell me they're right, then I'm happy to work with this spreadsheet", and she said okay.
543 Mrs Stariha says that she provided the revised spreadsheet to Mrs Hart because she wanted Mrs Hart to verify the "homework" Mrs Stariha had undertaken. Mrs Stariha says she asked Mrs Hart to check the revision based on what she had "found out". Mrs Stariha said she declined the offer of having Mrs Hart's bookkeeper look through the numbers because (T, p 48, lns 34-39):
… She said it was right, so I thought why wait another two weeks. The bookkeeper came in once a fortnight and I believed it was going to hold it up. I wanted to get the information to go to the lawyer … you know, really research this because remember in September I didn't know if I was staying or going.
544 Mrs Stariha said that in this period between 19 October and 23 October 2006 she was "still unsure" as to whether or not she would stay or go and told Mrs Hart that if she did not buy the retail franchise she would probably leave. Mrs Stariha says she asked the question, however, that if someone else comes in and buys it, would she have a position. Mrs Stariha says that between 19 October and 23 October 2006 she was still of the view that she could still leave Frontline "because even in November I got my termination pay" and "I thought that if I don't buy the business then I would be unemployed" (T, p 49, lns 1-3).
545 Notwithstanding that Mrs Stariha accepted that purchasing the business would be an expensive outlay for both Mrs Stariha and Mr Stariha and that it would be a long term commitment, she did not wish to wait another two weeks and have a bookkeeper look at the numbers because as far as she was concerned, Mrs Hart had told her, based on the revised spreadsheet, that "That's the figures we're going with". Mrs Stariha believed that "these were the figures" and she says she said to Mrs Hart: "I'm going to the bank with these figures" and Mrs Hart said "Yes, great" and Mrs Stariha then went to the bank with the figures.
546 Mrs Stariha said that she wasn't satisfied "for my own sake" with the work done in revising the spreadsheet because her point was that she had asked Mrs Hart if the revision was correct and was told that it was correct. Mrs Stariha did not accept that Mrs Hart's response was "a qualified yes" because Mrs Stariha had "no idea if it was correct or not" and had asked the question "is it correct?"
547 Mrs Stariha did not accept that there was a big difference between a response of "yes, it's correct" and a response of "it looks right but do you want me to run it past my bookkeeper?" Mrs Stariha said to Mrs Hart "if it's correct, I will run with this sheet". Mrs Stariha gave this further explanation on this topic (T, p 50, lns 1-15) in this exchange:
Q: All right. But in any event, you didn't want the bookkeeper to look at the numbers?
A: No, that's not the case at all.
Q: Sorry, I don't understand that. You were happy for the bookkeeper to do up the figures?
A: If she said to me that, "Do you want the bookkeeper?" - she told me that she had checked with the accountant and her bookkeeper. She told me that the spreadsheet was correct, she said, "Do you want the bookkeeper to give it to you?" I said, "Well, if we've got the sheet, you tell me it's correct" - I was not declining the offer of the bookkeeper. I said, "If you tell me it's correct and you've already checked it, then that's it". I did not decline the bookkeeper. When she offered for the bookkeeper to take it and send it back to me, I said, "If you say it's right, I'm happy with that".
548 Mrs Stariha was taken to her version of the exchange with Mrs Hart at para 24 and said that that was what Mrs Hart had said to her. Mrs Stariha accepted that she had asked her own accountant to look at the numbers in the original blue spreadsheet and her accountant told her what he thought the business "could possibly be worth" (between $180,000 and $190,000).
549 Mrs Stariha did not accept that the conversation she had spoken about with Mrs Hart occurred over the telephone rather than in Mrs Hart's office, as Mrs Hart was in Perth attending a conference. Mrs Stariha said that the meeting occurred "directly after the conference". She said: "I remember it distinctly because she didn't have time to come down to the Gold Coast, so I went up to Brisbane. And it was important, because we were looking at the business".
550 Mrs Stariha accepted that she kept no notes of the meeting. Mrs Stariha said she had notes along the way but did not "do it all" (write down her recollection of the events) in 2009. The notes consisted of the documents Mrs Stariha had saved and notes as she worked through the "JJ checking" data. Mrs Stariha said that she had "perfect recollection of the meeting". She remembers being in Mrs Hart's office and she remembers talking about the price "because she got a little bit frustrated with me".
551 As to the document containing a list of 401 contracted clients, Mrs Stariha says that she remembers the document being given to her in person but "I also look back now and say, well, maybe there was an email version of the report, but I had a hard-copy because I remember receiving it because it was actually for the lawyer who wanted to check the - the clients". Mrs Stariha said that the lawyer wanted to know the clients, at the end of October 2006.
552 Mrs Stariha accepts that she received an email from Mrs Hart dated 18 October 2006 attaching a list of 401 clients as "Christmas card list". Mrs Stariha also says she made enquiries of Mrs Hart at the end of October 2006 about the clients of the retail business due to the "concerns of her lawyer" so as to make sure that she actually had the clients. Mrs Stariha says the copy of the list she has is not a printout of an email attachment but a hard copy given to Cleary & Hoare. The email was forwarded by Mrs Stariha to her personal email at home.
553 On 9 October 2006, Mrs Stariha sent an email to her husband [223] attaching a document and saying to him "numbers to crunch". The document consisted of a large spreadsheet of month-on-month sales comparisons with budget comparisons. Mrs Stariha says she sent it to her husband but has no recollection of looking at it herself. It shows the financial performance for the Gold Coast Retail sales activity for the 2003/2004 financial year at $23,462.00 and shows "LY and FY" for that year. It shows further entries for January 2005. Mrs Stariha did not accept that either she or her husband would have seen the 2003/2004 figures for the Gold Coast notwithstanding that it was a document sent home by Mrs Stariha for the purpose of her husband "crunching the numbers". Mrs Stariha accepted that she sent the email and attachment to her husband (T, p 55, lns 43-45; T, p 56, lns 1-23) and did not doubt the authenticity of the document.
554 As to the versions of the spreadsheets Mrs Stariha was working on, she accepted that during the period when she was deciding to purchase the Gold Coast Agency, she was preparing multiple spreadsheets which assumed $150,000 of earnings in Year 1 and postulated earnings of $240,000 in Year 2. Mrs Stariha said that these projections were based on the terms of the Franchise Agreement assuming an income of $150,000 in Year 1 with the uplift contemplated by the Agreement. Mrs Stariha did not accept that these spreadsheet scenarios were formulated to enable her to satisfy herself as to the likely forecast performance of the retail franchise. Mrs Stariha said this: "What I was doing was actually satisfying myself that what I had been told was true" (T, p 59, lns 46-47). Mrs Stariha accepted that the document attached to her email to her husband on 17 October 2006 under the reference "JJ WORKINGS 2.xls" is a copy of an Excel spreadsheet created by her that she was working on in October 2006 (Vol R13, Tab 35).
555 Mrs Stariha accepted that by 28 November 2006 she was "pretty much certain" she would acquire the Gold Coast Retail business. She said this (at T, p 65, lns 36-38): "I had my loan approved. I was convinced. I was really happy. I was ready to go".
556 By November 2006, Mrs Stariha understood that as an agency owner she would have to attend to "other aspects of the franchise" not required of her when simply an employee of Hart Trading, such as managing employees, paying expenses, preparing budgets as well as working the franchise. Mrs Stariha accepted that being an agency owner meant working as many hours as it took to attend to these things. Mrs Stariha accepted that she would not derive a "wage" for the extra hours necessarily worked as an Agency owner. She said that she expected a wage for what she was already doing, plus the profit (T, p 68, lns 1-3; lns 18-21).
557 As to Julstar's trading activities, the first financial period of operation by Mrs Stariha was, in a practical sense, from January 2007 to 30 June 2007. Mrs Stariha was asked a number of questions about items of expenditure in that period and then the comparative expenditures in the financial year ending 30 June 2008. The latter period, of course, represents a full financial year rather than 12 months. Mrs Stariha was asked to explain the nature of the expenses and the amounts involved and I accept her evidence in relation to all of those matters. In the financial year ending 30 June 2008, Mrs Stariha purchased, through Semolina, the Frontline Hospitality Agency which caused her to relocate to the new office at Scarborough Street, Southport largely to accommodate the increased staff. Mrs Stariha initially hired one staff member in the retail business and two staff in the hospitality business. I accept Mrs Stariha's evidence in relation to the nature of the expenses and the relevant amounts incurred in the conduct of Julstar's business in the financial year ending 30 June 2008.
558 Mrs Stariha accepted that in the period of the financial year ending 30 June 2009 there was a "quite dramatic drop in consulting fees" (T, p 73, lns 42-43) as a result of a significant drop in demand (T, p 74, ln 4) in part due to the impact of the global financial crisis (T, p 73, ln 45).
559 Mrs Stariha "disagreed strongly" with the proposition put to her that from about May 2008 she began reducing the hours of time she spent "working in the agencies". At that time, Mrs Stariha had four juniors working in the business and May 2008 was "extremely busy". Mrs Stariha had some health issues to address but they did not occur until September and October 2009.
560 Mrs Stariha accepted that she was not working 40 hours a week for the full financial year ending 30 June 2009 because in March 2009 she struck an agreement with Ms Amy Doberer for Ms Doberer's management of the Gold Coast retail franchise for three months. Mrs Stariha said that from about October 2008 the placement activity had fallen away to the point where she had the "lowest job list" she had ever experienced at less than five. The demand was lower and Mrs Stariha said she had to contend with the termination by FRGPL of her hospitality business. Mrs Stariha gave evidence that she took steps to procure consulting support to try and improve the business. She also engaged a marketing coach to try and improve her business performance. She was also trying to see how she could attract clients for the hospitality business. As to Julstar, in the financial year ending 30 June 2009, Julstar had 10 employees (including Mrs Stariha) of which four were not consultants. Some of the employees began with Julstar and then moved across to Semolina's business activities. I accept Mrs Stariha's evidence in relation to these activities and the related expenditures for the financial year ending 30 June 2009.
561 Ultimately, the retail agency stopped trading on 19 February 2010 and Julstar's last financial year of trading activity therefore was the year ending 30 June 2010. Again, I accept Mrs Stariha's evidence in relation to the explanation of the expenditures in that period.