"There is a real likelihood that twenty four hour operation of the proposed hotel/tavern will have a detrimental social impact on the town centre, given the potential for commuters to be arriving and departing by train from Hurstville station until approximately 2.30am on weeknights and 12.30am on weekends. In addition, 'nightride' buses operate until approximately 4.00am every day. It is therefore reasonable to anticipate that the proposed Hotel/Tavern will create an increased security risk to these travellers from potentially intoxicated and disorderly patrons of the proposed establishment.
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… Further, due to the proximity of the site to the main station entrance, there is an increased probability that commuters will encounter anti-social behaviour by intoxicated persons. The best interests of the community will not be served should commuters be forced to access the station via an alternative route.
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… In particular, the safety and security of persons in a nearby small park would be put at risk.
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Proximity to schools and churches is also an issue to be taken into account. A high volume of children use Hurstville Station to travel to and from their places of education, including the Danebank school. Students walk past the subject site on their designated route from the station to the school.
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In addition to the violence at other establishments, there have been problems resulting from intoxicated patrons moving from one premises to another as venues open and close. There are real concerns that the subject premises has the potential to attract large numbers of patrons in the early morning hours as other establishments 'wind up' for the night. In general, any detrimental social impacts from the existing establishments are likely to be exacerbated by the addition of another hotel/tavern in the middle of the Hurstville Shopping Centre."
7 The Council did not call any members of the Hurstville community or any neighbouring shopkeepers to give evidence. There was a distinct lack of primary evidence about the matters which were the subject of Mr Brown's complaints. I do not suggest that Mr Brown was not qualified to give the evidence which he did. That was not challenged. However, the members of the Licensing Court, operating as they did in the specialist field of liquor licensing, were well able to judge the potential for intoxicated and disorderly patrons of an hotel to cause problems. It is clear indeed, that the Licensing Court considered the potential problems that could result and took those problems into account in determining the conditions which it would impose upon the licence. The conditions dealt, inter alia, with the trading hours of the hotel, the activities which could be carried on in the hotel, noise, security, closed circuit video cameras, both within the premises and on the street in the vicinity of the premises, the number of persons permitted on the premises and many other matters, including the conditions that liquor may be sold only for consumption on the premises and that no patrons may leave the hotel with liquor.
8 There were many witnesses called on behalf of the applicant. The hearing took place over three days. I need not describe Mr Williams' evidence. Mr G W Smith, a planning consultant was called. Two reports from Mr Smith were tendered as was a draft plan of management. Mr Smith was cross-examined at considerable length. Mrs McLachlin was called. She was a resident who gave evidence as to the need for such a facility in the area. Mrs McLachlin was questioned about the effect on safety which the hotel may pose. The substance of Mrs McLachlin's evidence was that there had been problems in Hurstville with groups of young people, but such groups had been cleared away from the Hurstville Town Centre and she had not seen them for six months. She did not consider that the hotel would pose a problem. Mr Papadopoulos, a neighbouring shopkeeper, spoke in favour of the establishment of the hotel. Mr Papadopoulos was questioned about children and hotels. Miss Bevan, who worked at the Hurstville Town Centre, spoke in favour of the facility which the hotel would offer. Miss Bevan was asked about problems which had occurred in the area. She had herself been attacked on one occasion. She agreed that she would not wish to walk past a licensed hotel after working overtime on a winter's night. Mr Bowditch, a specialist in security, gave evidence as to security risks and as to potential of the hotel to disrupt the security of persons in the area. He expressed the view that he did not see any problem. Mr Kipps, who had a business in the Hurstville Town Centre, said that he had not experienced any rough or loutish behaviour in the area. Mr Reid, who was one of the persons involved in the partnership which was to operate the proposed tavern, was called to speak about the management of the hotel.
9 The applicant's evidence went well into the third day. The Council then called Mr Brown. The cross-examination of Mr Brown was quite brief. It was put to him that he probably had not had an opportunity of looking at "the latest raft of conditions". He agreed that he had not and he agreed that the conditions, which had not been considered by the Council, created a number of significant changes. Mr Brown agreed that the hotel's trading hours were to be reduced and that they would not exceed the acceptable hours specified in the Council's policy, that other hotels in the area traded at later hours and that the Council's policy had emanated as a result of concern about activities at those hotels. Mr Brown agreed that, despite the Council's concerns, it had not brought any application to restrict the trading hours of those hotels, notwithstanding that the Council's policy had been passed in 1997. Mr Brown agreed that the incidents that had given rise to the Council's policy on trading hours had occurred in the one or two years immediately before that policy had been passed. Mr Brown was asked about video surveillance and said that, irrespective of whether or not the hotel licence was granted, the Council was considering implementing measures by way of video surveillance and security patrols in the area, but that those steps had not been taken as yet. Mr Brown said that he was aware, in broad terms, that under s 104 of the Liquor Act, the Council and concerned shopkeepers or residents could bring proceedings before the Liquor Administration Board if problems arose.
10 Mr Brown was not specifically cross-examined about the issues raised in his report. But, to a large extent, Mr Brown's report passed by, rather than confronted, the applicant's case before the Licensing Court. In the course of the applicant's case, conditions had been developed to limit the hotel's potential to be a source of trouble and complaint. Mr Brown's report expressed concerns, but his report did not discuss the steps which were proposed to be taken to ensure that the hotel and its patrons did not present an unacceptable risk. The effect of his report was to raise concerns of a general nature. The applicant for the licence raised no challenge to the possibilities which Mr Brown adumbrated. The issue was whether the licence should be granted in the light of the conditions proposed. Unfortunately, Mr Brown had not studied the conditions and made no comment upon them in his evidence in chief.
11 I may say, without a great deal of discussion, that I could not hold that the judgment of the Licensing Court was manifestly unreasonable. The very fact that the Land and Environment Court also rejected similar arguments which the Council had put to it is a strong indication that the Licensing Court did not come to an unreasonable decision. Indeed, as the issue in the proceedings centred around the positioning of the hotel in the Hurstville Town Centre, near the Hurstville Railway Station and near a taxi rank, the issue would seem to have been, preeminently, a town planning issue. The Licensing Court gave its own consideration to the objections put forward. It seems to me that the decision of the Licensing Court was made on the basis of the substantial body of evidence which was before it and that its decision was clearly one at which a reasonable decision-maker could have arrived.
12 It was submitted by Mr P Rigg, the solicitor for the Council, that the Licensing Court did not deal with the substance of the case as put by Mr Brown. It was conceded by Mr Rigg, however, that the Licensing Court, in its reasons for decision, set out the substance of the objections of the Council and made findings of facts which were inconsistent with the Council's case. The Licensing Court said, inter alia: