78 We are not satisfied that there is a prima facie case that either of Grande Group Limited or Grande Holdings was a holding company of Akai Australia. This, though, raises the question whether for the purposes of Bray's case, the relief sought against the two companies under s 588W of the Corporations Act is substantially similar to that sought against the same two companies under s 588J (or s 588M). Both deal with the liability of a third party, in the one case a director, in the other a holding company, for insolvent trading. The compensation payable under each provision is identical in terms. As we have earlier indicated, his Honour was satisfied that the relief sought against the two companies under s 588J and s 1317H was, for Bray purposes, the same. However, he took a different view in relation to the relief taken under s 588W, considering it to be sufficiently distinct from that sought under s 588J and s 1317H. We have explained why we have doubts as to the correctness of his Honour's view in relation to the equivalence of the relief in s 588J and s 1317H. However, unlike his Honour, we consider that there is a case for saying that the relief sought in the circumstances under s 588W is relevantly the same as that sought under s 588J. Though the causes of action differ, the relief in one case being against the companies as shadow directors, in the other as holding companies, there is an argument for saying that the relief sought is the same. For this reason we consider that the Bray principle might be applicable to the s 588W claim, notwithstanding we have found there to be no prima facie case in relation to it. However, the right to sue under s 588W is vested in the liquidator, while the right under s 588J is given to the applicant for a civil penalty order.