35.
In any event a determination as to the desirable mode of access to a particular parcel of land in 1996 is not the same issue as the desirable point of entry to the same piece of land in 2001. See El Alam v Northcote City Council [1996] VicRp 95; [1996] 2 VR 672, 684 per Mandie J.
36.
We reject the contentions based on the alleged res judicata or issue estoppel.
37.
In our view there is much to be said for the contentions made on behalf of the O'Neills and the Responsible Authority that the only matters which it is proper to consider as to the "merits" of this proceeding are matters specifically relating to the subject matter of the two overlays to which this land is subject. It is only because of the operation of these overlays that a permit for these proposed works is required. These overlays devote themselves to matters of visual amenity and environmental protection. They seem to be concerned not at all with issues of traffic management, though the City of Yarra's Yarra River Corridor Urban Design Guidelines (an incorporated document) does concern itself with access roads and car parking areas and hard surfaces. See Paragraph A(iv). The text of the guidelines relative to these matters and also to fences (see A(ix)) show that the guidelines are dealing with issues of visual amenity rather than traffic management. Nevertheless we assume for the purposes of our determination without deciding that the issues of amenity and "orderly planning" relied upon by the objectors in this proceeding, being principally traffic management issues on the carriageway easement are proper considerations for the purposes of our determination.
38.
Even making that assumption we are unpersuaded that any of the matters urged by the objectors would be sufficient to lead to the denial of the permit sought. The traffic management issues must be seen in the context that this proposed parking area is a second or auxiliary point of access to a single allotment which already has a generally more convenient access at Park Avenue. The concerns expressed by Mr Webb in 1994 were with respect to a proposal which would have had access points for a separate household at this lower point on the carriageway easement. Secondly, the complaints made about the use of the "hard stand" area assume the existence of a right to use this as visitor car parking for the objectors. Of course the proper entitlements under the "roadway agreement" and under the easements of way are matters of general law for interpretation and enforcement by the ordinary civil courts; nevertheless, one cannot consider planning issues in total isolation from civil proprietary rights. For instance a development permit could not be rejected on the basis of complaints by neighbours who had been using the subject site as a park without having acquired any rights by way of adverse possession. The roadway agreement gives no absolute right to park. In so far as the roadway is governed by the entitlements under a carriageway easement arising from the plan of subdivision, a carriageway easement gives a right to "pass and re-pass" not a right to park. See Schedule 12 to the Transfer of Land Act 1958.
39.
We are not persuaded that the threatened conflicts are of sufficient importance to justify the rejection of this permit application.
40.
A more difficult issue arises in considering the relative merits of the O'Neills' original proposal and the variants suggested by Mr Gobbo at the hearing. These variants were advanced as "compromises" with a view to eliciting a withdrawal of the neighbours' objections. They failed to achieve that result. One would naturally assume that the initial proposal represented the O'Neill's preferred solution. As it turned out, we understood Mr Gobbo to content that the alternative proposal in one of its variants should be adopted in lieu of the original proposal. Mr Guss on behalf of himself and his lessors contended that cars manoeuvring out of the spaces shown on the amended proposal would naturally back into his property. We did not understand Mr Gobbo to contend that a car exiting one of the proposed north-south parking spaces could do so in a single turn without intruding upon the Guss property. Nevertheless, he suggested a more elaborate turn would enable a car to exit without intrusion. These spaces are said to be for use by the O'Neills' children and visitors. In so far as the latter use these spaces, they are not subject to any direct control as to their mode of manoeuvre. We think that there were good grounds for Mr Guss to prefer the original rather than one of the revised proposals. Accordingly, as will appear hereafter we propose affirming Council's decision without any variation or amendment.
41.
This brings us to what is the knottiest problem, namely what has been referred to as Condition 6 of the 1996 permit and what appears as Condition 5 in the Tribunal's determination. The proponent and the Council say that this condition contains a typographical error and should refer to Lot 2 rather than Lot 1. The objectors submit that it constitutes a clear prohibition upon the present proposal. As we have already described, access to Lot 1 of the 1996 subdivision is not "via the upper level driveway" but rather via Park Crescent. At page 5 of her 1996 determination, Ms Monk said: "Access to the homestead lot [that is Lot 1] would be via a recently constructed crossover to Park Crescent located a short distance east of Panther Place". That is in fact what has occurred. Earlier in describing the proposal, she said: