"1. Sometimes, when one reaches a difficult position and cannot move on, of course, it is good to go back to the beginning. I am not suggesting that you would start the whole process again, of course. I am not suggesting days of work. But rather, why not take stock right back from the beginning and then, from that point, see if you can move forward in a different way. A good thing to do along the way is to sort out the common ground. And once you have got that common ground, ask yourselves how that helps you. What does it tell you?
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> 2. Now, you will remember in my summing up I spoke to you about a number of different topics which I suggested made up the prosecution case. That is only my way of labelling them. You might have done it differently but, since it is the way I used, I am going to go back to that. But I do suggest that you look at them in a new order, not the order which I gave you previously.
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> 3. Perhaps first look at the evidence that I discussed under the heading of 'Equipment'. That is a fairly straightforward topic, I would have thought, and I know you know what the evidence is under that topic. No doubt you have discussed it already. With that in mind, ask yourselves 'Are we at one about that? Can we call that evidence, and our view of that evidence, common ground?' And if you can, then move on.
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> 4. The next topic you could go to, perhaps, is what I called 'Motive'. That, of course, was the deregistration sequence, and it included that number of statements which various witnesses attributed to the accused about Dr Tobin. Well, once you have looked at that, again in overview, ask yourselves 'Are we at one about that?'
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> 5. Then I suggest you could go to 'Brisbane'. You will remember that I gave you quite extensive directions about Brisbane because, obviously, it is a very important part of the prosecution case and, in a sense, it is a difficult part of the case. So the question is, as I told you, 'Are you satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the accused was the man at the Convention Centre, that he was there for a purpose related to Dr Tobin and that his motive was a sinister one?' And remember I gave you in my summing up - and I will not repeat it now unless you wish me to - a number of areas of evidence that bore on those questions. Now you need to make a decision about Brisbane, as it seems to me. It is a very significant part of the prosecution case.
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> 6. If you have reached that conclusion about Brisbane, then I suggest, look again at the evidence I discussed under the topic of 'Opportunity'. Remember I said to you that it perhaps was not the best word to describe that topic. The topic is probably bigger than mere opportunity, but I mentioned a number of topics under that heading.
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> 7. Then, ask yourselves the question 'Are we satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the accused was in Adelaide when Dr Tobin was killed?' If that is a point of difficulty, then I suggest you go through all the evidence that bears on that question. If you cannot recall the detail of all that evidence, then, by all means, ask me a question about it and I will go through it systematically. But if that is where the difficulty is, you need to be able to call to mind all the evidence that bears on that topic and you need to be able to call to mind the arguments that the prosecutor and Dr Gassy put to you about that.
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> 8. Then, finally, you could look at the scene. I spent little time on that because it seems to me that it does not help you all that much. But that is a question for you. You know from the scene the type of killing it was and, possibly, that the fourth man in the lift was the killer. But then there are competing arguments about that. So does that help you?
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> 9. Of course, I do not know where your difficulty is but, if you get through that process, then you could ask yourselves 'Are we in agreement to this point?' And I say again, if you are not, then you need to isolate the exact point where your views diverge and you need to focus on that point and you need to go through that process: 'What is the evidence on this point? Do we have adequate recall of all that evidence? Do we need to hear some of it read? Do we need a summary of it? Do we need to know again what anyone said about it?' Make a list, I suggest, of that evidence and then make a list of the arguments on both sides relating to that point and then analyse those arguments.
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> 10. Now, let me assume, for the purpose of this exercise, that you are in agreement to that point. The next question, of course, would be: 'Now we have decided the accused was in Adelaide when Dr Tobin was killed, what was his purpose for being here? Did he kill her?' So then you ask 'What evidence helps us on that point?' Here you will remember I gave you a direction about the use of the Brisbane evidence. It is a difficult direction in a way and I wonder whether it might help you if I gave it to you again.
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> 11. FOREPERSON: Yes.
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> 12. HER HONOUR: I will put it into context.
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> 13. I had just gone through all the evidence I said you could take into account on this question of whether the accused was the man in Brisbane, and I will not go through that at the moment; I have really moved past that point for this purpose. Then I said to you: 'Now, having considered and evaluated all that evidence, if you are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that it was the accused acting suspiciously at the Convention Centre on 27 April 2002, and that he was there for a purpose related to Dr Tobin, and that it was a sinister purpose, then you are entitled to use all that material and the conclusion when you come to consider the other evidence which bears on the identity of Dr Tobin's killer. You could use that conclusion in this way. First, you could use it as bearing on the identity of the man David Paes at the Shamrock and the Lindy Lodge Motels, and on the Renmark video. And, further, if you conclude that the accused and David Paes are one and the same, and that he used the vehicle with the registration number RSX-366 to drive to Adelaide, then you could use the Brisbane evidence to throw light on the reason for the accused's presence in Adelaide. Because once you know that Dr Tobin was killed in what might be called execution style in Adelaide in October, then any incident concerning her, or possibly concerning her, in the year or two leading up to that event, would potentially take on a new significance.
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> 14. If it turns out that there was such an incident in Brisbane earlier in the year, and if you conclude that the accused was the person at the centre of that incident, and then, if you find a number of similarities between the circumstances of the Brisbane and Adelaide incidents, including that, on each occasion, if you find it so, this man with what you might find was a profound resentment towards Dr Tobin, a man who possessed the type of weaponry that killed her, had made a long, clandestine and otherwise unexplained journey to the place where Dr Tobin was at that time; a planned journey, using a hired car, notwithstanding the availability to him of his own and his parents' cars, a journey each time coinciding with his parents' absence from the home they shared, then your conclusion that the accused was that man in Brisbane could take on a decisive character in relation to your deliberations about the identity of Dr Tobin's killer in Adelaide.
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> 15. It is for you to say whether such a line of reasoning is helpful in this case. The potential relevance of the Brisbane evidence is then its tendency to prove the accused's presence in Adelaide and as to his purpose for being here. That is the proper use of the Brisbane evidence.'
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> 16. And so you would have, on this question of the accused's purpose, the Brisbane evidence, the timing of the trip, the hiring of the car, the return of the car, the suggestion of the trip being clandestine, the false names used in the motels, the fact, if you find it so, of the dumping of rubbish at Renmark, potentially linking the two trips, the timing I think I said of the departure from Adelaide, if you find it so, and the very type of killing it was.
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> 17. Well, again I say to you, if that is the point of difficulty, make a list of the evidence that bears on those matters, discuss what can be drawn from that evidence, recall the arguments as to each of those matters, decide whether you adequately recall all the evidence and all the arguments as to it and, if you do not, then please ask for help. And that, as I said, could be reading from some passages of a particular witness's evidence (and you could direct me to the very points that you wanted read out) or it might mean reading a part of my summing up again or asking me for a summary of something that you thought important. And I could compile something like that and let you have it.
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> 18. So, that is the series of suggestions that I make to you. Perhaps I can ask you to retire again. Hopefully it has been of assistance."