The evidence of Mr Styles
55 FCN called evidence from Mr Styles. Mr Styles gave this evidence.
56 He is a consultant in the television industry. In the period August 2001 to February 2008 he was the Head of Sales, Marketing and Distribution for ABC Asia Pacific now branded Australia Network. Australia Network is an Australian international television service telecasting to over 41 countries throughout Asia, India and the Pacific on the PanAmSat set of satellites. He says that he is well acquainted with FCN and Mr Lawrence. He says he was aware of TFCPL, the original company, that ABC Asia Pacific dealt with. He first met Mr Lawrence in 2001 and discussed the possibility of broadcasting food programs on the ABC Asia Pacific network. He says he is familiar with FCN's trade mark 733265 which he depicts at para 6 of his affidavit, and the image he says he is familiar with from that trade mark is the image depicted at [21] of these reasons. He says that image was used on programs supplied by TFCPL and FCN which he describes as the "Food Channel".
57 Mr Styles says he met Mr Lawrence again in January 2002 in relation to a series of programs entitled "Ethnic Cooking" and "What's Cooking" and reached an agreement with him on behalf of "the Food Channel" to broadcast the programs making up those series of programs through ABC Asia Pacific under the trade mark 733265. He says that in about July 2002 the programs first went to air on ABC Asia Pacific and continued to be put to air until November 2004. He says that a variety of programs entitled "Ethnic Cooking" and "What's Cooking" were broadcast throughout the day at 8.30am and 10.30am in the morning and in the afternoon schedule of 12.30pm, 2.30pm and 4.30pm through to the evening timeslots of 7.30pm and 9.30pm. The programs were broadcast from July 2002 until November 2004. Mr Styles annexes examples of the broadcast schedule program identifying transmissions across the period for "What's Cooking", "Ethnic Cooking" and "On the Land". The program schedule for the period 1 December 2001 to 31 December 2008 is in evidence.
58 Mr Styles says that in December 2002 he discussed with Mr Lawrence the possibility of additional programs being supplied by FCN and broadcast through ABC Asia Pacific. Mr Styles reached an agreement with Mr Lawrence for the supply of 25 programs in the total amount of $6,875. The series was to be called "On the Land". Programs were broadcast on the ABC Asia Pacific network from February 2003 until October 2004 "under the Food Channel trade mark 733265", according to Mr Styles.
59 In January 2003, an agreement was reached between ABC Asia Pacific and Mr Lawrence for the production of 97 four to five minute food programs to be produced by the program supplier and supplied in accordance with a delivery schedule to accommodate the broadcasting schedule for ABC Asia Pacific. Mr Styles annexes at "JS3" a copy of a letter on ABC Asia Pacific letterhead dated 23 January 2003 which is a further copy of the letter annexed as "PLL10" to the affidavit of Mr Lawrence. The programs were to be telecast by ABC Asia Pacific through its "distribution network, cable and direct‑to‑home as shown on footprint maps attached". The footprint maps are not attached to the copy of the letter annexed to Mr Styles' affidavit.
60 Mr Styles says that ABC Asia Pacific paid the first instalment of the contract price on 6 February 2003 for the supply of 30 programs. Mr Styles says that Food Channel produced a series of programs under the banner "Food Facts" which included programs entitled "Italian Food Facts" and other programs called "Contemporary Food Facts". Mr Styles says the "Italian Food Facts" programs were completed and delivered to ABC Asia Pacific in August 2003. Broadcasting of the programs began in September 2003 and continued up to 2006. The programs called "Contemporary Food Facts" were completed and delivered in September 2003. Broadcasting commenced in October 2003 and continued up to February 2006. The program schedules in support of those dates are attached to Mr Styles' affidavit.
61 Mr Styles at para 12 of his affidavit swears the issue in a conclusionary way by saying that programs entitled "Ethnic Cooking", "What's Cooking", "On the Land" and "Food Facts" were broadcast through ABC Asia Pacific's television service under the Food Channel trade mark 733265 during the period 14 July 2003 to 14 July 2006. Of course, the foundation facts which might lead to that conclusion are the facts that are the relevant facts.
62 In cross‑examination, Mr Styles was asked to explain the ABC Asia Pacific scheduling program (Exhibit 14) and "JS4" to Mr Styles' affidavit. The schedule shows, for example, that "Food Facts" programs under the description "Mirko Grillini's Italian [Italian Food Facts]", episode 1 described as "Taglaita" was broadcast 15 times between 1 September 2003 and 24 February 2008. Similarly, episode 2 of Italian Food Facts under the description "Spaghetti Ai Gamberi" was broadcast 14 times between 2 September 2003 and 5 November 2005. There were 97 programs or episodes in all. The programs on the scheduling list "represent the material which was purchased from Food Channel". As to the image forming part of trade mark 733265, Mr Styles was asked by FCN's counsel to explain his recollection of it and said "in so far as the program was concerned, it was included in the program as a moving logo. The fact is that the food in the logo was actually on a revolving, moving basis": T 173, l 7.
63 In cross‑examination, Mr Styles was asked to look at the DVD at "IRT‑4A" and the DVD at "IRT‑14" (sometimes called "IRT‑14A"). As to "IRT‑14" comprising material assembled by Mr Lawrence and delivered to IP Australia and copied to Ahearn Fox, Mr Styles agreed that after scrolling through the credits, a trade mark appeared immediately after the words "Produced By" and the image displayed on the screen when viewing the DVD was the image at [46] of these reasons rather than the image depicted at [21] of these reasons. As to "IRT‑4A", Mr Styles agreed that after the scrolling of the credits, the name "NBN Production" appeared in the place where the trade mark had appeared in "IRT‑14" and Mr Styles accepted that there was no trade mark for either TFCPL or FCN incorporated in the program. Mr Styles noted immediately however that what he had seen "wasn't a full tape". That is - in my opinion, that tape is not complete, because it does not have a - have that trade mark on it … I am not saying it is wrong but the tape is not complete": T 181, l 40.
64 This exchange then occurred at T 182; l 7 to l 40:
MR FRANKLIN: And the trade mark that appeared on 14A appears immediately after the credits and shows the words "Produced By" and a trade mark belonging - a trade of the applicant, but not the trade mark in these proceedings?
MR STYLES: It would seem - yes.
MR FRANKLIN: It showed the trade mark that I took you to, trade mark 738571?
MR STYLES: Yes.
MR FRANKLIN: Any in precisely the same place on the first tape that I showed you, immediately after the credits, the tape shows the trade mark "NBN", doesn't it?
MR STYLES: Well, it is not truly the NBN trade mark, but I don't understand how that has happened. Normally, that is why I said - and normally, NBN would not be involved --- I mean, that is where it was produced, but they are not the producer.
MR FRANKLIN: Well, that had "NBN Production" didn't it?
MR STYLES: Well, the program isn't an NBN Production. It was at NBN, but it's not NBN Productions.
MR FRANKLIN: It said NBN Production. I suggest to you, Mr Styles, that when you in your affidavit say, in particular, paragraph 12, that all of these films were broadcast under the trade mark 733265, that at least in the two DVDs I have shown you, trade mark 733265 doesn't appear? And sorry, if I can just withdraw that and preface that, you can accept people have given evidence about this and his Honour can have the DVDs in full if he so pleases, but you can accept that every single one ends the same way, on IRT‑4A each one ends with "NBN Production" in the credits, and IRT‑14A each one ends with "Produced By" and then a depiction of trade mark 738571. My suggestion to you is that at least on those, trade mark 733265 is clearly not used?
MR STYLES: Well I can agree on those two, but in all - I mean, I never watched the program - I can't watch the program on air because I don't have a big satellite, but when my office was in Sydney at the ABC, I used to see the programs go through and I mean, I obviously didn't look at every program, otherwise I wouldn't have been paid, but the fact is that I had seen programs with this existing logo on it.
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65 In clarification, Mr Styles said that his reference to "the existing logo" was a reference to the animated version of the image in trade mark 733265. Mr Styles accepted that he had not seen a static version of the image in trade mark 733265 in any of the programs. Rather, the image was the animated image. Mr Styles was asked when he might have first seen the animated image and said the first time he saw it was probably when a videotape was presented to him as an example of what the programs might look like. He thought he would have seen the animated image prior to purchase of the programs on 23 January 2003 and the programs went to air after that date. The programs were paid for in blocks when the programs were produced. There were 97 in all and the first block consisted of 30 programs. Mr Styles thought he saw probably two or three of the programs so as to determine the standard of the program and whether it was acceptable to the "program people". Mr Styles said that he looked at two or three programs from each batch of programs making up the 97 programs. This exchange occurred at T 185, l 14:
MR STEPHENS: And did you notice whether or not, or can you now recall whether or not any of those of the batches which you looked at had the Food Channel trade mark 733265.
MR STYLES: They did, but - they did have, because, personally, I didn't like the logo and I - I think I passed on the information that I would prefer a different sort of - it was nothing to do with me, that's the producer, but, in effect, I remember seeing it, if only on the basis that I really made comment about the logo.
MR STEPHENS: Did you see any other logo on Paul Lawrence's products?
MR STYLES: No I didn't. No. What I saw today was the first time I'd ever seen that particular logo [that is the image at [46] of these reasons].
MR STEPHENS: Alright. And so can you say with any certainty that Mr Lawrence's logo of the Food Channel was shown … on the ABC Asia Pacific network over the period stated in your affidavit?
MR STYLES: Yes.
66 I accept the evidence of Mr Styles who I found to be an impressive witness.