"Granted that the duty to give reasons is never one to be expressed in absolute terms, none the less I find it difficult to conceive of a case in which a County Court judge, after hearing evidence on an appeal from the Magistrates' Court, would not be required to give reasons, although perhaps there is a danger in being too dogmatic. To quote McHugh J.A. In Soulemezis at 279: 'But when the decision constitutes what is in fact or in substance a final order, the case must be exceptional for a judge not to have a duty to state reasons.' In ex parte Powter; Re Powter (1945) 46S.R. (N.S.W.) 1 at 4, Jordan C.J. said: 'There is another matter which cannot be allowed to pass without notice. As already mentioned, the magistrate has neglected to give any reasons for his order. This was wrong. It has been pointed out time and again that orders by magistrates made under legislation such as this "are of the gravest moment, and involve life long consequences. They are not like the ordinary kind of orders in other petty cases that come before them every day ... Magistrates should realise, even more than they seem to do, that this class of business is not mere ordinary trivia work, and they should deal with these cases with a due sense of the responsibility which administration of the Summary Jurisdiction Act and the far reaching consequences of the orders that they make thereunder entail": Barker v. Barker (1906) 95 L.T.549.' Jordan C.J. was speaking here of the duty of magistrates when making maintenance orders; what his Honour said can only apply a fortiori to a County Court judge hearing an appeal in a criminal matter. It is regrettable that this court should have to say so. In this case, I have no doubt but that reasons were required for the determination that was announced by the County Court judge so briefly at the conclusion of the hearing. Indeed, it may be that the failure of the judge to do anything but pronounce orders might have attracted other remedies in the circumstance that no appeal lay otherwise, but that is not a matter which falls for a determination, and I pass it by."