"[Defence counsel]: Yes?---I approached him [Mr Gudeta]. I called him over and told him to wait up. I asked him about the money, "Are you gunna pay Tony the money?" And he told me to fuck off. He started getting all funny when I mentioned the money.
When you say "funny" what do you mean by that?---Aggressive. He changed.
In what way? Can you describe for the jury what happened? ---Well, he told me basically to go away, you know, and then he started making some threats to me.
Can you recall what those threats were?---That he's gunna, you know, stab me, and get his African brothers onto me.
What happened then?---Then I pushed him against the wall and told him, "Don't threaten me."
Can you just describe where you were in the train station at that point?---At that particular time I was probably on the top of the stairs, on the decline.
So this is on the step ?---On the decline.
- - - stairs area?---Yeah.
So your evidence is that you've pushed him against the wall. Did you say anything to him?---I told him not to threaten me.
Did he say anything to you?---Yeah, he got - he got more aggressive and started making more threats.
So can you then describe - can you describe to the jury what happened then?---Well, then he said he's got a machete in his bag, okay, and that's when I sort of, you know, got I panicked a little. I got scared. I walked away.
So you've said that he described the machete, you panicking, are you still on the stairs at this stage?---I believe so, yes, I'm walking down the stairs.
What happened then?---Then I attempted to walk away from him, and then he continued to keep going on about what's he gunna do to me, yeah, he's gunna stab me in the back when I'm not looking, yeah.
Whereabouts were you when this is taking place?---I probably finished going down the stairs at that point, I was in the passageway.
Can you describe what happened after that?---After that he approached me, and then there was a scruffle (sic), a grapple, and I held onto him in order for him not to access his bag. I didn't want him pulling out the machete.
Where did you think this machete was that you're referring to?
---In his bag.
Whereabouts in the train station were you at this stage?
---In the passageway.
You've said that there was a grapple. What happened after that?---After that I remember holding his arms, we held onto each other, and then I dragged him away.
When you say dragged him away, where did you drag him from and to?---From the passageway to the tree.
Why?---I didn't want him accessing the machete - I didn't want him opening the bag.
Was he saying anything at this stage?---Yeah, he's still making threats.
Was he doing anything at this stage?---He was holding onto me as well. Yeah, he was struggling.
You've described now that you've got to the treed area, what happened there?---Well, basically for him to let me go I bit him - I bit his ear.
Can you describe that in more detail, what led up to that and why you did that?---I wanted him to let go, and I wanted to get away from him.
Why did you want to get away from him?---Because I didn't want to get stabbed.
What were both of you doing immediately before the bite?---I beg your pardon, before the bite?
Immediately before you bit him where were you standing in relation to him?---Probably face-to-face, yeah.
Where were your hands?---My hands were probably near his shoulders, yeah.
Can you recall where his hands were?---Probably near my armpits, yeah, but we did change positions.
What do you mean by that?---As we were struggling - you know, like, I'm trying to get the better of him, he's trying to get the better of me.
Then you said that you bit him?---Yes.
What happened then?---Then he pulled his head away.
Can you describe exactly how that happened?---Well, basically when I bit him I remember him yelling, and then he pulled his head away.
You've seen in this case that part of his ear is ultimately found on the ground?---Yes.
Do you know when and how that happened?---Well, I found that out when the police arrested me. I knew I had bitten him, but I didn't know I took his ear off.
What was your intention when you bit him?---For him to let go.
Why?---Because I didn't want to get stabbed. I didn't want to be next to him.
You've heard the complainant gave evidence that - I'm going to take you now back to the staircase area - that the only thing he said to you was, "I will kill you." So this is what you're saying to the complainant from the complainant, "I'll kill you, come here." Words to that effect. What do you say to that suggestion?---Incorrect.
Can you just go through again what you say the conversation was on the stairs?---About the money. About paying back the money.
Your Honour, what I seek to do now is to play the compilation footage for Mr Tarantzopoulus to comment on if I could.
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(Recording played to court.)[3]
[portion of video on the stairs played]
Can I just ask for it to be paused then. So Mr Tarantzopoulus, can you describe what's happening there?---Well, now, that's when I've been threatened, yeah. As I've taken my helmet off I've been threatened at that point.
What were the words that were being used just if I can clarify that?---He was telling me that he was going to get his brothers onto me.
Your evidence before about asking him about money, can you just explain to the jury at what point that conversation takes place?---Can you repeat that, sorry?
Your evidence before was that you'd approached a conversation about money?---Yes.
When did that take place?---Right there, yeah.
You say that at this stage the witness has been threatening you?---Yes.
If we could press play again.
(Recording played to court.)
If we can press pause now. Mr Tarantazopoulus, can you explain to the jury what's happening there?---Well, I've pushed him back against the wall and told him not to threaten me.
Thank you, Mr Tipstaff.
(Recording played to court.)
Mr Tipstaff, if I could ask you to pause it there. Mr Tarantzopoulus, can you tell the jury what's happening there?---We're struggling. We're having - there's a scuffle.
When you say "a scuffle", what do you mean by that?---Well, you know, we're fighting, we're fighting.
So when you say "we're fighting", can you describe what Mr Gudeta is doing?---He's actually trying to strike me as well.
And what are you doing?---Pushing him.
(Recording played to court.)
Can you tell the jury what's happened through that passage? ---Well, basically the fight escalated then.
Can you go into a bit more detail about that?---Yeah, it got a lot rougher.
Well, when you say it got a lot rougher, what was Mr Gudeta doing?---Well, trying to use his - you know, trying to use his body and, you know, trying to fight.
And what were you doing?---Just trying to use my body weight to push him.
(Recording played to court.)
Can you describe that part of the footage there?---Well, basically, we're separated and that's when I've been threatened once again.
Mr Gudeta said words along the lines that he wasn't fighting with you but you were trying to pull him down the stairs. What do you say to that suggestion?---Totally, totally incorrect.
For the purpose of the transcript, we've now gone to the angle of the camera looking from the bottom up the stairs. Thank you, Mr Tipstaff.
(Recording played to court.)
Mr Tarantzopoulos, that's a different angle, but can you tell the jury what's happening there?---Well, I'm yelling back at him.
Well, you're yelling back at him but is anybody else saying anything?---Yeah, yeah, he's threatening me.
What sort of things is he saying?---The same thing, continued threats, that he's going to get his brothers on to me and he's going to stab me and they're going to get me.
Can you recall what you were saying?---I was telling him not to threaten me, repeatedly.
(Recording played to court.)
That's from a different angle. That's under the undercover part near the train station?---Mm'hm.
Can you tell the jury what was happening at that stage?---I'm trying to get away from him and then he's gotten real close to me, very close, too close.
All right. And if we can press "play" again.
(Recording played to court.)
[Defence counsel]: And we can press "pause" there. (To witness) Can you please tell the jury what's happening in that passage?---I'm trying to walk away again and then he's coming - coming towards me once again.
Can you tell the jury what was being said, if anything, between the two of you?---That he's going to pull the machete out and stab me.
Can you describe what you were doing through that passage there?---Trying to get away from him.
(Recording played to court.)
Mr Tarantzopoulos, can you explain to the jury what is happening at that stage?---At that stage I've grabbed a hold of him to prevent him from taking the machete out of the bag.
And then done what?---Then dragged him.
Why did you drag him?---Because I didn't want to be stabbed.
(Recording played to court.)
Mr Tarantzopoulos, we're now looking at the long shot towards the tree area. Can you describe what's happening to the jury there while we're playing?---Well, we're struggling, yeah, we're fighting.
And when you say "we're fighting", can you describe that more?
---Well, more - more we're grappling, not actually punches, yeah, we're more - got a hold of each other and we're trying to, you know - one of us is trying to get the better of the other one.
Are you able to say at which point it is that the grapple and the earbite takes place or not?---I can't - I can't say from that angle. I couldn't say. I mean, it happened as I - as he's let go.
Yes?---I mean, obviously, when I - when I've walked away, it's - yeah, that's when it happened 'cause I remember when he pulled his head away and I heard the scream, and he let go. Then I walked away.
Can you identify when it is that you leave?---When?
Yes?---Well, immediately after he's let go of me.
All right. And what's happening there, Mr Tarantzopoulos, that you can see?---I'm still there, I think.
It doesn't matter?---I actually haven't seen myself walk away yet with the bike.
All right. But your evidence is that at the end of the altercation, that you walk away?---Yes, I do walk away.
Can you describe how that was? You said something about a bicycle?---Yeah, pushing my mountain bike.
So you're pushing it as opposed to riding it?---Yeah.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Tipstaff. (To witness) Mr Tarantzopoulos, you would agree that you've got no prior convictions for assault matters? ---Yes.
You've been charged by the police with intentionally causing serious injury and recklessly causing serious injury to Daniel Gudeta. Did you intentionally cause serious injury to Daniel Gudeta? ---No, I did not.
Did you think it was likely or probable that biting Daniel Gudeta would cause him a serious injury?---No, I did not.
What was your intention when you bit Daniel Gudeta?---For him to let go of me.
What did you think would happen when you bit Daniel Gudeta?---I thought he'd let go of me."[4]