"His Worship: Mr. Shirrefs I'm ... there's no need to go into that, I'm of a mind to grant bail in this matter, in these matters, and I will give my reasons in relation to that, but err ... and I believe part of the basis for granting for bail ... You may take a seat if you wish ... Certainly I believe that a show cause situation has been achieved, there are substantial sureties that have been offered. I've taken into account all of the matters that have been put, and particularly the comments that have been made ... have been put to me in relation to the case of Medici. There are other cases which ... and his Honour Mr. Justice Hampel his decision I think it was Alexopoulos was the one that was put to me, and certainly the question of delay is a matter of great concern particularly when one applies the presumption of innocence. The Bail Act quite clearly makes provision for the acceptance of that presumption of innocence and to give some capacity to people who are incarcerated to be granted bail. In both instances I am told and I accept that the applicant have, or the defendants have the capacity to be employed. I do have the capacity to impose stringent conditions and I intend to do that. In all of the circumstances I am satisfied that as I have indicated the show cause standard has been met. The delay is an issue. It has been put, certainly in the case of Mr. Radev, that he is an unacceptable risk. That has also been put in relation to Mr. Zayat. It clearly can be taken into account by me that it would be in either of their interests to do anything that would in any way jeopardize their future trial, there is to some extent supposition and assumption that they may be an unacceptable risk, certainly more so in the case of Mr. Radev. I am not able to be entirely convinced about the evidence of Jordan or Sweeney to the effect that they have been got at or affected in any way by Mr. Radev. It's my view that in each case their evidence was somewhat contradictory and not strong and I think the Crown has some difficulties in relation to that aspect of their case, but in terms of dealing with it on a bail application, I can't put it any higher than the extent to which I've commented. For the purpose of assessing the nature of the conditions that I should impose, I've indicated that they should be stringent. I propose to set a surety of $50,000 and I would be open as to any indication from the Crown as to what conditions they might require in respect to the proposed bail."