There, the accused was 74 years of age; he was, on appeal, sentenced to five years with a minimum of three and a half years by a majority, and again was subject to remissions. There are a number of other authorities which I shall not recite: Schloss [1998] QCA 44; (1998) 100 A.Crim.R. 80 (I note, in particular, the dissent of de Jersey, C.J. with whom, with respect, I agree); R. v. Yates [1985] VicRp 3; (1985) V.R. 41 (I note the dissent of Murphy, J. with whom, with respect, I would agree if I were not bound by authority) - Schloss was 67, Yates 68 - R. v. Thorpe (unreported, Vic. CCA, 2 November 1993) 70 years of age; R. v. Kavanagh (unreported, 7 December 1993, Vic. CCA) 65 years of age. And, most recently, the sentence of Vincent, J. in R. v. Teeken (16 June 2000) where the accused was 79 years of age, and, after a jury trial, was convicted of manslaughter and was sentenced to five years' imprisonment with a minimum term of three years. I note (and, with respect, agree with) the analysis of principle of His Honour at paragraphs 21 to 22 of that judgment.