The partial transcript of the interview conducted on 17 July 2017
14 The interview was conducted with the benefit of an interpreter. The appeal papers do not include a transcript of the interview. The Appellant obtained a recording of the interview and his solicitor had a Mr Chelliah, who is fluent in Tamil, transcribe a portion of it. The resulting transcript suggests that during the interview the Appellant was asked about his brothers and their relationship with the LTTE. He gave this answer:
Interpreter: Yes, they did work for them. [clarifies with Applicant in Tamil] I don't understand [responds to Case officer in English]. Okay, you know, whenever there was a fight, they would deliver food and, you know, do the necessary things for the fighters. Yes, so there were some informants, we informed the authorities about the informant.
15 From this it is open to infer that the Appellant told the delegate that his brothers delivered food to LTTE fighters and that both the brothers and the Appellant had informed the LTTE authorities about an informant. I draw that inference.
16 Later in the transcript this exchange occurred:
Case officer: So, but did they formally work for the LTTE, did they have, like an LTTE name?
Interpreter: We didn't know about their involvement, but we know they were in LTTE, but we don't know whether they had a rag in LTTE, or they were spy for LTTE, we don't know anything about it.
Case officer: Why not?
Interpreter: Can I clarify this Marika [responds to Case officer in English]? Okay, they were like supporters for LTTE, they would go to the LTTE base and then they would come back. Then they were providing information for LTTE.
17 It is unclear what the import of 'rag' is. I would infer from this exchange that the Appellant told the delegate that his brothers were with the LTTE but he did not know what they did for the organisation and, in particular, he did know whether they spied for it. I would also infer that he told the delegate that the brothers would go to the LTTE base to provide information to the LTTE.
18 Later in the transcript this exchange occurred:
Case officer: And why do you think you will be harmed or targeted if you were returned?
Interpreter: Yes, because of my brother's involvement, many like, the village people, public, everyone knows that they, they were supporters of LTTE, and they had involvement in LTTE. My brother was like, recruiting members for LTTE as well.
19 It may be inferred from this that the Appellant told the delegate that his brothers were involved in the LTTE and that this involvement included recruiting persons to the LTTE. Later in the transcript this exchange occurred:
Case officer: You don't know what your brothers' involvement in the LTTE were? You can't even tell me if they were high level or if they were members.
Interpreter: I don't what sort of involvement my brothers had, whether they had weapons or they were like protecting the weapons, or, I don't what they did.
20 It may be inferred from this that the Appellant told the delegate that he did not know what his brothers did with the LTTE.
21 The pertinent parts of the transcript therefore reveal that the Appellant told the delegate that:
(a) his brothers took food to LTTE fighters;
(b) he and his brothers informed the LTTE authorities of an informant;
(c) his brothers went to the LTTE base and provided information to the LTTE;
(d) he did not know whether his brothers were spying for the LTTE; and
(e) his brothers were recruiting for the LTTE.
22 Points (a), (d) and (e) are not rationally capable of supporting an inference that the Appellant claimed before the delegate that his brothers were in the LTTE intelligence unit. Propositions (b) and (c) could support an inference that the Appellant claimed that his brothers provided information to the LTTE including information about an informant.
23 It is possible, perhaps, to see the brothers as having been involved in the provision of intelligence to the LTTE. It is even possible to accept that in matters of intelligence precisely where the dividing line between intelligence assets and intelligence agents is to be drawn may be indistinct. Even accepting this to be so, however, I do not think the above evidence can sustain an inference that the Appellant claimed before the delegate that his brothers worked for the LTTE intelligence unit. The short of the matter is that he never said that and indeed the only thing he said clearly was that he did not know what they had done for the LTTE. Further, any inference which might be drawn from (a)-(c) and (e) must be consistent with (d). In (d), the Appellant explicitly told the delegate that he did not know whether his brothers were spying for the LTTE. As I have said, I would not infer from (a)-(c) and (e) that the Appellant told the delegate that his brothers worked for the LLTE intelligence unit. However, even if such an inference were open, it could not be drawn where the statement in (d) was made. The Appellant cannot have claimed both that his brothers were with the LTTE intelligence unit and that he did not know whether they were spying for the LTTE.
24 Thus, I do not accept that the evidence of what occurred before the delegate can sustain an inference that the Appellant advanced to the delegate a claim that his brothers were in the LTTE intelligence unit. It follows that it also cannot sustain an inference that he told the delegate that he had assisted them in relation to those activities. It could support an inference that he had supported his brothers in other ways but the claim under consideration is that he supported his brothers in their work for the LTTE intelligence unit.
25 The Appellant also submitted that the Authority had mishandled the matter because it had proceeded to consider the veracity of the two claims when all that it was required to do, at this stage, was to consider whether the claims constituted new information. It is true that the Authority regarded the two claims as an 'embellishment' of the Appellant's earlier claims and that it is open from this to infer that it was sceptical of them. It is also true that the Authority had no need to consider whether the two claims were correct. However, none of this matters. The only issue is whether on the evidence before the delegate the two claims were made. The jurisdiction of the Authority in this respect is not affected by anything it did, or did not do, and turns only on what happened before the delegate.
26 This argument was pursued in support of Ground 1A of a proposed further amended notice of appeal. The argument run in the Court below was that the jurisdictional fact was not established. The trial judge rejected this argument on the facts (which did not include the partial transcript of the interview). In this Court, Ground 1A purported to raise the jurisdictional fact argument again but the terms in which it was drawn revealed that it concealed a large number of other challenges to the Authority's conclusion that the claim had not been raised before the delegate. Thus, for example, particular (i) was to the effect that the Authority had erred by failing 'to consider all claims, including claims subsequently rejected or read down, to determine whether the previous claims concerning the Appellant's brothers roles with the LTTE were of the same nature as LTTE intelligence work'.
27 This is misconceived. In a jurisdictional fact argument, the question of what the Authority thought or did has no relevance. The only question is whether the judicial review court thinks that the evidence before the decision maker either did or did not make good the jurisdictional fact. This also explains why the fact that the Authority did not have the transcript is irrelevant. Each of the particulars to proposed Ground 1A either suffers from this misconception or is incomprehensible or, in one case, is about the Court below. Leaving aside the drafting of the particulars to proposed Ground 1A and treating the ground as the jurisdictional fact argument to which I have referred, it is evident that the ground cannot be made good.
28 The appeal was initially listed for hearing on the afternoon of 26 July 2022. Less than an hour before the hearing the Appellant's solicitor, Mr Taylor, filed an application seeking to amend the notice of appeal and also to rely upon fresh evidence. The hearing of that application occupied the whole afternoon. The application was dismissed with costs: DKA18 v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs (Amended Notice of Appeal) [2022] FCA 953. The matter was then listed for a second hearing on 28 February 2023. At the commencement of that hearing Mr Taylor again sought to amend the notice of appeal to raise an amended form of Ground 1, a new Ground 1A and an amended form of Ground 2. This was despite Mr Taylor having agreed at the first hearing that the appeal would proceed on the form of the notice of appeal on the Court file.
29 At the second hearing, I refused the amendment application in relation to Ground 1 and indicated that I would deal with the new Ground 1A and the amended version of Ground 2 in the substantive reasons: DKA18 v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs (Second Amendment Application) [2023] FCA 157.
30 Having considered the matter as one of substance I am not persuaded that Ground 1A has any prospects of success. I would therefore reject the interlocutory application to amend the notice of appeal in relation to Ground 1A. The transcript to which I have referred was not in evidence before the trial judge and was received in this Court on the amendment application to raise Ground 1A. Once that ground is rejected, the transcript has no relevance and I would reject the affidavit of Mr Chelliah on the hearing of the appeal.