21 In Kaplan No 1, the findings by Ritchie C as to harshness were not disturbed by the Full Bench, which found (at [31] - [35]):
31 The Commissioner was entitled, on the evidence, to reach the conclusion that the respondent was "not in a mentally fit state to handle (the meeting of 1 December 2008) and, therefore, had a diminished responsibility for what she expressed during such a meeting". That conclusion was available on the medical evidence and the evidence otherwise available as to the respondent's state of mind in the weeks immediately preceding and at the meeting of 1 December 2008. It was also available to the Commissioner to take into account that the two incidents of inappropriate behaviour on 3 and 5 November 2008 by the respondent and the behaviour of the respondent on 1 December at the meeting convened by the appellant's officers, as he apparently did, represented conduct which was, to some extent, unusual or aberrant, having regard to the respondent's lengthy and incident free employment record prior to October 2008. These were mitigating circumstances which were required to be considered by the Commissioner.
32 In concluding whether the dismissal was harsh, the Commissioner had to balance these personal and mitigating considerations against the gravity of the misconduct. The Commissioner plainly undertook that task and properly had regard, in our view, to all relevant factors.
33 We consider that the Commissioner understood the seriousness of threats of harm being made by one employee to another and, in particular, the significance of an apparent threat to kill. In this respect, the principle stated in Bhattacharya v Director-General of the Department of Education of Training [2000] NSWCA 74 at [23] may be accepted but does not add greatly to the disposition of the appeal. The question the Commissioner had to answer was what was the gravity of that conduct, on the evidence before him at the hearing of the s 84 application. In that respect, the Commissioner was required to, as he did, make an assessment as to whether the respondent was incapable of rational behaviour at the time of the meeting, and to the extent that she was not, to take that into account in diminishing the severity of the conduct. It should be remembered that, absent the incident which occurred at that meeting, the employee would not have been summarily dismissed, although warnings had been issued and voluntary redundancy was under consideration.
34 We agree with the submission made by Mr R Reitano of counsel, for the respondent, that the character of the threat must be also judged against the fact that it was made at a meeting where the respondent was gravely distressed and where the person to whom the threat was apparently levelled was not present. In this respect as well, the Commissioner was entitled to have regard to the failure of the appellant to allow the respondent an opportunity to explain herself after the meeting of 1 December 2008, as a factor going to the harshness to the dismissal, albeit as a consideration of a procedural kind.