"During the three and a half years that you've been in the industry, have you read the relevant Act?---No.
You've never read the Act?---No.
Never read part of it?---No.
Never read any of the Regulations?---No. Besides what was on the licence.
Right; and just help me because that is the profession that you're in - why haven't you read the Act or the Regulations?---Well, I haven't known how to get - - go about getting it. Getting hold of it, or who I can see to read it.
All right. Did you ever make some inquiries to ascertain?---No.
No. Right. You would've been aware - I presume, as a result of your occupation - that there was an Act that controlled your activities?---Yes.
Right; and you would've been aware then, that there are Regulations that control those actions?---Yes.
But you never read either and you never made inquiries in relation to how to obtain them?---No.
When the police spoke to you - as I understand it - one of the questions asked was - - so you acknowledge that you're not permitted to carry OC spray. 'Yes; I do. But with that, I mean on my person?' Where did you get that information from, to answer that?---Well, after the incident with Mr Hickey, I read the brief article in the paper and it just stated that the new legislation stating that we weren't permitted to carry it whilst on duty. And with that, what I got from that article was - actually on your person.
PROSECUTOR: Right. But you hadn't read the Act or the Regulations?---No.
Mm. So you would say that you were not - - you were aware that you couldn't carry it on the person?---Yes.
But your answers would indicate that subject to the job you attend, you would carry it on your person? Yes; if I got called to a job where I believed my life or a citizen's life could be put in danger."