(b) the material already filed shows upon what the plaintiffs are relying.
13 I do not think the first answer is sufficient. The defendants are entitled to the facts as to why the plaintiffs say that the second defendant was a de facto director. I cannot see in the evidence filed to date any such information; it may be in the exhibits which I have not seen. It may also be that the plaintiffs can only give limited particulars at this point of time and, accordingly, should not be required to do anything further until there have been interrogatories and discovery.
14 Again, this is a case where the information is in the knowledge of the second defendant, rather than in the liquidators of the first plaintiff. It seems to me that paragraphs 2 and 3 of the request for particulars, with reference to paragraph 9 of the statement of claim, are within what I have just said, and the defendants are entitled to some detail. I will not order them on this motion because I can be confident that the liquidators will take notice of what is said and will either point to passages in the exhibits, or alternatively, will give an answer as to what particulars they can supply at this stage.
15 Further, paragraphs 4, 5 and 7 in the request under this head seek particulars of each decision that was made by the second defendant. The defendants are not entitled to this. This is within their knowledge anyhow, and paragraph 6 is, in my view, adequately answered.
16 (C) Mr Newlinds says that the only particulars that could be provided would be in accordance with annexure A to Ms Exner's affidavit. He further says it is difficult to see what the parties' true position on this topic really is. It may be the position that the accounts were inadequate. This is a true expert issue about which both sides will serve appropriate evidence. It is not appropriate to make orders in relation to particulars at this stage. It does appear from the third defendant's case that such discrepancies exist and, accordingly, the Court could not be satisfied that the request is made in good faith.
17 I would not wish to rule on the second matter, but it does seem to me that in Ms Exner's affidavit sufficient answer has been given. In equity, where the affidavit does give the information as to how a plaintiff's case is proceeding, one cannot say the particulars are reasonably necessary and so they are not ordered.
18 (D) Paragraph 9 in the request for particulars asks for full particulars as to how the figures do not adequately reflect the true position of Deemah Singapore. In my mind the material provided in the affidavit of Y C Liaw and J R Gibbons of 1 June 2001 are sufficient material.
19 Under this heading there are also paragraphs 10 and 11. Mr Stanton says no particulars have been given of how the second defendant knew all the matters alleged in paragraph 25 of the statement of claim. This seems to me to be a simple allegation of a material fact for which you do not get particulars. In any event, because of cases such as Tait v Woods (1884) 1 WN (NSW) 61, these facts being within the knowledge of the defendants, the defendants are not entitled to particulars.
20 As to the alternative allegation that the second defendant ought to have known, particulars do need to be supplied. Fox v H Wood (Harrow) Limited [1963] 2 QB 601, 604. However, it seems to me the answer in the latest document that these particulars are as set out in paragraphs 9(a), (b), (c) and (h) and 10 of the statement of claim is adequate.
21 (E) There is no doubt that the defendants are entitled to particulars as to what is the true value of the relevant shares. However, it is clear from the material that the best particulars have been supplied to this point of time. After discovery and interrogatories more might then be ordered but not at this stage.
22 (F) It seems to me that an adequate answer has been given at this stage, as has been the case with (G).
23 Thus it seems to me that I should dismiss the notice of motion. However, it is on the basis that within fourteen days the plaintiffs will point to exhibits which show the facts alleged as to how the second defendant was a de facto director.
24 I should thus make directions that the defendants file and serve a verified defence by 20 September 2001. I stand the matter over to the Registrar's list on 24 September 2001 at 9.30 am for mention. The proper order for costs is that the plaintiffs' costs of the motion are to be the plaintiffs' costs in the cause.