" 2. Don't try to win the case yourself:
Never seek to become the advocate and win the case for Perisher Blue. You will be seen to be a biased witness. You will lose credibility.
Rely on the Lawyers to win the case. They are the advocates.
· You are there to give independent objective facts.
· Do not argue.
3. Don't be Dogmatic:
· Don't be dogmatic, ie, 'I am sure this happened' and 'This must have happened'.
Say:
'It's possible, but I don't think so' or 'I think it's possible, but I don't think it is likely'.
'In my opinion (In my experience) I believe this happened …' "
25 The document goes on to advise the recipient "Always tell the truth." It was quite plain from the cross-examination of Mr Laing, Mr Bevin and Mr Palmer that they had discussed amongst themselves what the evidence of each of them would be. However, the cross-examination probed no further. Mr Palmer gave this evidence in cross-examination:
"Q. You discussed your evidence with Chris, did you? A. No, not the actual evidence, just the case. Not the evidence, just the case.
Q. Did anyone warn you not to discuss the evidence with anyone? A. No, they didn't.
Q. Did anyone say to you, you might be asked whether you discussed your evidence with anyone? A. Sorry?
Q. Did anyone say to you, you might be asked, 'Have you discussed the evidence with the other witnesses?' A. Yes.
Q. Who said that to you? A. I've been warned by our other workmate.
Q. What did he say to you? A. He said. 'You might be asked whether you discussed the evidence.'
Q. When did he say that to you? A. This morning.
Q. Who was that who said that to you? A. Darryl Dean.
Q. Did he give you some advice as to what to say? A. No, he didn't.
Q. So what exactly did he say to you about that? A. He told me that we might be asked have we discussed the evidence.
Q. Did he say anything further? A. No, he didn't.
Q. In any event, you had discussed what evidence you were likely to give with Darryl Dean, hadn't you? A. No, not really.
Q. What do you mean, not really? A. We talked about the case, but - yeah.
Q. Yes. He'd investigated this case, hadn't he? A. Yes, he has.
Q. You told him what your evidence would be, hadn't you? A. Yes, he should know what my evidence is if he's investigated the case.
Q. You in fact had a long discussion with him on at least one occasion as to what your evidence would be, hadn't you? A. No long discussions.
Q. Well, you had a discussion, didn't you? A. I've had a discussion, yes.
Q. How many occasions did you have a discussion with Darryl? A. Once or twice while we were waiting outside.
Q. But you had a discussion before you came to Sydney, didn't you? A. Yes, we have.
Q. How many times have you had a discussion with Darryl before you came to Sydney about your evidence? A. Twice.
Q. Twice. When you say 'we', who are you referring to? A. Myself, Darryl Dean, Chris Bevin and Sharon Jack.
Q. Sharon Jack and - Alex, was he there? A. No, he wasn't.
Q. You were all there, were you? A. Yes, we were.
Q. How long ago was that? A. From memory, I think one was a week ago, and one was three weeks ago.
Q. How long did that discussion of a week ago take? A. 45 minutes.
Q. What about the three week conversation? A. Yeah, it was 45 minutes to an hour.
Q. You were all there for the whole time? A. Yes, we were.
Q. Was there anyone else there? A. Ken --
Q. On each occasion? A. Sorry?
Q. On the first occasion, about three weeks ago, who were the people there? A. Ken Randall.
Q. Ken? A. Ken Randall.
Q. Randall. Who's he? A. He's - I don't know what his actual thing is, his Perisher title is at Perisher Blue.
Q. He's one of the bosses, is he? A. Yes, he is.
Q. Yes. Anyone else there? A. There was myself, Chris Bevin and Darryl Dean, and Sharon Jack.
Q. And Sharon Jack. A. Yep.
Q. What about on the second occasion? A. Sharon Jack, myself, Chris Bevin and Darryl Dean.
Q. Were you told that Perisher Blue was concerned about this case? A. I was told they were investigating the case, yes.
Q. Yes, and that they wished you to assist them in the case? A. To give evidence, yes.
Q. But they wanted you to help. A. Yes.
Q. Was there discussion on each of the occasions as to the sort of questions you might be asked? A. No, there wasn't.
Q. What was the discussion about on the first occasion? A. That the case is going ahead and what dates they will be on and basically what we were expected to wear and where we were meant to be.
Q. But there was a discussion for about, what, 45 minutes? A. Yes, there was.
Q. On the second occasion for a similar amount of time? A. Yes, there was.
Q. Certainly, on the snowfields it's important to ensure safety, isn't it? A. Yes, it is.
Q. Incidentally, did you discuss this case, the evidence, with Alex Laing at all?
OBJECTION. FORM.
Q. Alex Laing wasn't at either of these two meetings. A. No, he wasn't.
Q. But he's been with you all this week; since last Sunday night. A. Yes, he has.
Q. Have you discussed with Alex Laing your evidence? A. No, I haven't.
Q. Has he discussed it with you? A. Yes, he has.
Q. What did he tell you? A. That he was there on the day.
Q. How many times has Alex discussed his evidence with you? A. I'd say probably twice.
Q. No more than twice? A. No.
Q. Quite sure about that? A. As far as I can remember, yes.
Q. It's only since Sunday. Only twice since Sunday has he told you what he was going to say. A. He hasn't told me what he was going to say, no. He told me what he was here for.
Q. That was to say certain things. A. No, it was because he'd been called up to come here.
Q. You knew that already, didn't you, when you saw him? A. I did not know Alex was coming until the day before that.
Q. But when you saw him, you knew that he was here to give evidence, didn't you? A. Yes, I did.
Q. He then told you what he was likely to say. A. No, he didn't."
26 Mr Dean agreed that he had taken two statements from Mr Laing and that he had been told by the management that the case was an important one. He gave this evidence in cross-examination:
"Q. Are you quite sure that you haven't discussed Mr Laing's evidence with him? A. Yes, apart from the day he made the statement and the additional comments.
Q. Wasn't there a teleconference at some stage involving a number of witnesses? A. There was in regards to - that was Sharon Jack organised that with Alex and Chris and Jai, and the company's administrative officer, Ken Randall. It was basically just in particulars of how we were going to get to court; as funny as it may seem, how to dress; and how to act in court, and no specifics of the case were discussed. It was - I was asked a question about what I did, in as you've asked me, in regards to taking photos and videos, and then there was just a - with the other guys it was just going over their statements.
…
Q. Who was actually at this conference, from the beginning to end? A. Chris Bevin, Jai Palmer, Alex Laing, myself, Ken Randall and Sharon Jack.
Q. What is Ken Randall's position? A. He's the administration officer for Perisher Blue.
Q. Was this a teleconference? A. Yes, it was.
Q. So who was at the other end? A. Geoffrey Brookes and Michael Connolly.
Q. Everyone remained at the conference for the entirety, at least at the Perisher end. A. Yes, they did. Yes. Geoffrey and Michael were on the phone the whole time as well, see.
Q. You could see the, could you, or they could see? A. I couldn't, no. I couldn't, it was on the phone.
Q. In any event, each of the statements was gone through? A. Yes.
Q. When you say 'the statements', what are you referring to? A. The ones that I handed you there; just the written statements from Alex, Chris and ski patrol's statement as well, from Jai.
Q. When was it that this took place? A. What's today, Friday - Friday last week.
Q. Friday last week. Do you recall what date that was? We should be able to work it out, I think, with the assistance of a diary. A. It's the 11th or the 12th.
Q. 11 July? A. 11 July.
Q. Is that right? A. Yes.
Q. Was there a previous meeting about this case? A. A previous meeting?
Q. Yes, before 11 July. A. With everybody in that meeting, or --
Q. With anyone. A. I've had a number of meetings with Sharon Jack about this case.
Q. Had there been any previous meetings at which you've attended with the witnesses? A. No.
Q. So there wasn't an earlier meeting? A. No.
Q. See there wasn't a - are you sure about the date?? Before you answer that question, can I just say this to you; can I suggest to you that possibly you've made a mistake and that in fact the date was 27 June. I'll just see if that's a Friday. That was a Friday. The last Friday in June. Could that be right? A. No, I'm sure it was last Friday.
Q. It would be a matter of surprise to you, would it, if you were told that there was a meeting involving Ken Randall and Chris Bevin and Jai Palmer and Alex Laing on Friday, 27 June. A. Just trying to think. I know we had a meeting on Friday just gone. I certainly don't recall one.
Q. But what I'm suggesting to you is, perhaps you're mistaken in relation to the earlier date that you gave, I think 11 July. A. No, I remember having a meeting last Friday, because I picked up some cab charges from Jill Salimos, for Sunday.
Q. Last Friday, of course, is the Friday before this case commenced. A. Yes, that's right. That why I'm just saying, I remember it being that Friday because I also remember picking up some cab charges from Jill Salimos, the secretary, for Sunday, and I would only have done that a day or so in advance.
Q. That's only a week ago, of course, isn't it? A. Yes.
Q. In any event, after the meeting that you've told us about, did you receive a letter as to the evidence that you were expected to give? A. Yes.
Q. Who was that letter from? A. Dibbs Barker Gosling.
Q. Right. Was that a letter addressed to Perisher Blue Pty Ltd? A. Yes it was."
27 He identified the letter as that from Dibbs Barker Gosling of 3 July 2003. He agreed that it had been given to Bevin, Palmer, Laing and Richard Tuck, the General Manager of Finance Administration, and to the OH & S Manager, David Milford. He gave this evidence:
"Q. Certainly, to your knowledge, Chris Bevin and Jai Palmer and Alex Laing have each been invited to at least one meeting with the most senior management of Perisher Blue for the purpose of discussing their statements. A. Sharon Jack isn't senior management. She's a manager. She's not senior management.
Q. What about Mr Jack? A. Sorry?
Q. What about Mr B Jack? A. Bob Jack hasn't attended any of those meetings. I know, as I said, Chris, Jai and myself have had a meeting with Sharon. Alex had a meeting with Sharon when he wrote his statement. But Sharon is not senior management. She's middle management, I guess you'd put it.
Q. Mr Bevin, I think, made two statements, didn't he? A. He made a ski patroller statement, and then a statement.
…
Q. Have you discussed with Jai Palmer his evidence? A. No, apart from the fact that he wasn't there on the day, so he wondered why he had to be here. I said to him I had no idea.
Q. Well, you were at a meeting where Jai Palmer's statement was discussed, weren't you? A. Yes, I was.
Q. Have you discussed with Chris Bevin your evidence? A. No.
Q. Have you discussed with anyone, other than Mrs Jack, your evidence? A. Mr Jack, Mr Fernside.
Q. Why have you discussed with Mr Fernside, the financial controller, your -- A. No, Mr Fernside is the mountain operations manager. But Mr Fernside is my manager.
Q. Why have you discussed your evidence with him? A. Because he's my manager, and --
Q. What's he got to do with the evidence that -- A. He's just interested in what I had done. I have to quantify my hours that he obviously signs off on each week, and he asked me, you know, what I've done that week, so I've told him what I've done."
28 On 29 July 2003 after the close of the defendant's case and in the circumstance where there was no case in reply, counsel agreed that submissions should be made in writing. There would be no oral submissions. The Judge acceded to this proposal and directions were given for lodging and serving written submissions. That having been done the trial Judge reserved his decision.
29 A good part of the plaintiff's written submissions was directed to the unreliability of the defendant's witnesses, particularly in light of the solicitors' letter of 3 July 2003 relevant parts of which were quoted in the submissions. In his judgment the trial Judge made no mention of this letter or the teleconference.
30 It has long been regarded as proper practice for legal practitioners to take proofs of evidence from lay witnesses separately and to encourage such witnesses not to discuss their evidence with others and particularly not with other potential witnesses. For various reasons, witnesses do not always abide by those instructions and their credibility suffers accordingly. In the present case, it is hard to see that the intention of the teleconference with witnesses discussing amongst themselves the evidence that they would give was for any reason other than to ensure, so far as possible, that in giving evidence the defendant's witnesses would all speak with one voice about the events that occurred. Thus, the evidence of one about a particular matter which was in fact true might be overborne by what that witness heard several others say which, as it happened, was not true. This seriously undermines the process by which evidence is taken. What was done was improper. The process adopted was more concerned with ensuring that all the witnesses gave evidence which would best serve their employer's case. This realisation makes particularly sinister the precept in the Witness Protocols for Court Cases and Arbitration Hearings, "Not about facts about credibility".