Further, as Giles CJ in Comm.D (as his Honour then was) explained in Tallglen v Pay TV Holdings (1996) 22 ACSR 130 at 142:
"It is often the case that the need to make findings of fact for a decision of the separate question, especially findings which may involve issues of credit, tells strongly against the making of an order because related facts, and renewed issues of credit, will or may arise at a later stage in the proceedings. Experience teaches that it should be able to be seen with clarity that decision of a separate question will be beneficial in the conduct of the proceedings and the resolution of the parties dispute.""
The separating out questions to be determined by the Court and followed by a reference out
16 It seems to me to be extraordinarily difficult and likely impossible for the Court to be asked to case manage a particular set of proceedings by making orders that it will, under one or more separate question regimes, hear and determine a fraud case in advance of ordering a reference out of remaining issues.
17 The reason for this is that where the determination of a fraud case will involve questions of credit concerning witnesses to be called who will later be required to give evidence before the referee on the many factual issues to be determined by the referee, by definition the referee is almost certainly likely to be inhibited by the earlier findings of the Court [to the extent that the referee would not be in the usually necessary position of being able to freely assess the credit of the witnesses to be called before the referee].
18 That, as pointed out by Justice Giles CJ Comm Div (as his Honour then was) in Tallglen when observing that the need to make findings of fact for a decision of the separate question, especially findings which may involve issues of credit, tells strongly against the making of an order, because related facts, and renewed issues of credit will or may arise at a later stage in the proceedings.
19 By the conclusion of the hearing of the notice of motion, both Mr Parsons as well as Mr Marshall, having considered issues of this type, appeared to accept that there was really no way forward otherwise than that a hearing likely of all issues, be either the subject of a reference or the subject of a Court determination [both Mr Parsons and Mr Marshall contending that because of the fraud count, the principled exercise of the discretion was for the Court to retain determination of the whole of the proceedings]
20 I have refrained presently from returning to the more confined question raised by Mr Parsons' approach to the proposed separation order which, would raise questions of the proper construction of the contract. If and only if those questions are accepted as not raising any issue of the credit of any witness but are to be determined by the Court merely having the written terms of the contract placed before it, then it is possibly appropriate for those questions to be the subject of a separate question regime. It does appear that such an approach may save at least some time on a later trial.
21 Subject therefore to an acceptance by the parties of the manner in which the separate questions raised by Mr Parsons version will not include any questions of credit of any witness or any matters likely impact upon the later substantive hearing, [whether by a referee or by the Court], in my view those separate questions can go forward.
22 On the question of whether the hearing of the balance of the issues to be determined on trial should be referred out or determined by the Court, this is in truth a matter for the List Judge in case managing the proceedings. Having said that it must be acknowledged that as a general matter, there are particularly strong reasons why the Court would not refer out questions of fraud except in exceptional circumstances. However albeit rarely, the Court has exercised the discretion by referring even proceedings raising questions of fraud to a referee, as for example occurred in Pobjie Agencies Pty Ltd v Vinidex Tube Makers Pty Ltd Com Div No. 50249 of 1996 and on appeal, [2000] NSWCA 105.
23 At first instance those proceedings by the further amended summons, clearly included claims for fraudulent misrepresentation in a case concerning an agreement by the plaintiff to manufacture certain goods for the first defendant in accordance with particular specifications. Notwithstanding that circumstance Giles CJ Com Div saw it as appropriate, to permit the matter to be determined in its entirety by a referee. In an interlocutory judgment his Honour observed: