19 The evidence did not suggest that the appellants had the right to tell the respondent which trees to fell, nor how to go about felling any tree or trees, nor that they ever attempted to do so. The learned commissioner made a finding that the respondent was "an experienced and skilled tree feller able to carry out his ordinary duties with minimal supervision". The respondent's undisputed evidence was that it was his responsibility to fell enough trees to keep ahead of Mr Cox and his son in the overall operation. That is to say, there was a need for the respondent to co-ordinate his activities with those responsible for moving the felled timber, loading it onto trucks, and carting it away. The need for such co-ordination was the same, irrespective of whether the feller was an employee or an independent contractor. The degree of control exercised and exercisable by the appellants was something that was dictated by the nature of their forestry operations. Whether the respondent was an employee or an independent contractor, the only sensible contractual arrangement would have been one whereby the appellants could direct him to fell timber in particular areas, determine the pace of his work, and determine what days and approximately what hours he was to work. It is true that he drove a skidder for them when required to do so - on 10 or 12 occasions according to his evidence - but that fact must be seen in the light of the express term of the parties' contract (item 1.13 in a list of duties and responsibilities) whereby the respondent was to undertake "Any other task which may be agreed on between the parties from time to time". I do not think there was any suggestion that he drove the skidder otherwise than by agreement. All of these matters very significantly weaken the impact of the fact that the applicants could and did exercise control over the respondent in the ways that I have referred to.