2008: Defendant corresponds with lawyers for Mr Ellis' estate and plaintiff's lawyers and speaks to plaintiff about the Lots
- The defendant deposed that he had no knowledge the Lots were not in his ownership (nor that of his father and brother previously) until a conversation with Phillip Cooper in August 2008 at the Nymboida Coaching Station Inn (Coaching Station), during which Phillip Cooper said words to the effect of "[t]here are some paper roads in your land at Nymboida which belong to John and me. We inherited it from our father. John won't contribute to the rates".
- The following week, the defendant engaged solicitors, Pollack Greening & Hampshire, to make enquiries about the matter.
- On 26 August 2008, Pollack Greening & Hampshire wrote to the solicitors who represented Mr Ellis' estate, Foott, Law & Co, and asked them to investigate the estate file and advise why the Lots were not transferred to Mr Cutler as part of the Wards Creek property. The letter refers to Phillip Cooper telling the defendant that he and the plaintiff had been paying rates on part of "our clients' abovementioned property, being Lots 1, 2 & 3 in DP127532" and asserts that the defendant and Hilton McLennan (as co-owner) always believed that the Lots would form part of "Wards Creek" and they understood Mr Cutler believed the same.
- On 8 October 2008, Foott, Law & Co responded to Pollack Greening & Hampshire by letter which stated that: it appeared that the Lots (referred to as "enclosed road") were "not identified as being included in the property known as "Wards Creek"" and "were transmitted along with other parcels to the residuary beneficiaries, Phillip Cooper and John Cooper, in error"; Foott, Law & Co had previously contacted the plaintiff and Phillip Cooper regarding the matter; no response had been received from the plaintiff but Phillip Cooper had indicated that he would be prepared to join in a transfer of the subject land to the defendant and Hilton McLennan; and contact should be made with the plaintiff and Phillip Cooper directly.
- On 18 November 2008, Pollack Greening & Hampshire sent letters to the plaintiff and Phillip Cooper in relation to the Lots. The letters are in the same terms and assert that the Lots formed part of the Wards Creek property that was devised to Mr Cutler and were erroneously transferred to them; request that they "place this matter in order" by having the Lots transferred to the defendant and Hilton McLennan as the current owners of the Wards Creek property; and confirm that the defendant and Hilton McLennan were happy to reimburse on an area basis for any council rates and charges previously paid and would bear all costs and stamp duty associated with the transfer.
- Sometime in 2008, the plaintiff and the defendant saw each other at the Coaching Station. It is common ground that they had a discussion about the Lots although they have different versions of what was said.
- The plaintiff says that the defendant (who the plaintiff refers to as "Choko") approached him and they had a conversation to the following effect:
Defendant: You know those blocks at Wards creek they belong to Wards Creek and they are mine, it's a mistake that they have your name on it.
Plaintiff: Choko you know they're mine mate, I will be keeping them. I don't care about you continuing to run the cattle there, I told your dad he could do that and I'm happy for you to keep the cattle grazing there, I'm going to keep using my land like I have been to access the river.
- The defendant says that the plaintiff approached him and said words to the following effect:
Plaintiff: I own the paper roads on the Wards Creek property. Peter left them to me so I could access the river from there
Plaintiff: They're mine and I'll be keeping them. There is nothing you can do about it.
Defendant: Ok maybe we will end up in Court.