The case of the petitioner, therefore, rests solely upon the allegations contained in par. 5 and I am asked to hold that the matter therein appearing is tantamount to an allegation that a substantial but uncertain number of informal votes were admitted and counted during the course of the scrutiny. Such a general allegation would, it was said, be sufficient to satisfy the requirement of s. 185 (a). This may well be so but I find it impossible to accede to the first submission on this aspect of the case. The facts as they are alleged in the petition have already been stated and the proposition is that the matter alleged in par. 5 is sufficient to support an inference that a substantial number of informal votes had been admitted and counted. I am by no means sure that this is the correct form of approach to the present problem but if I were to accede to the stated proposition I would not be prepared to take the course of dismissing the petition at this stage and without further investigation; I would be inclined to take the view that, although there was no direct allegation of facts justifying an order invalidating the return, sufficient facts were indirectly alleged in the petition. But I have formed the view that it by no means follows from the fact that the percentage of informal votes was "considerably" lower than in "other Australian States" that informal votes were admitted and counted in the course of the scrutiny. Nor do I think that any different situation is produced when there is added to this circumstance the additional fact that the percentage of informal votes was "below that of informal votes in previous elections for the Senate in Tasmania". The specified percentages which follow these allegations are of considerable interest. In 1953 the percentage of informal votes was 5.09%; in 1964 it was 3.5%. In the intervening elections in 1955, 1958 and 1961 the percentages were 12.6%, 11.2% and 10% respectively and I find it impossible to say that one may postulate that the percentage of informal votes in Senate elections will conform to any standard pattern. Presumably it may vary from election to election within wide limits according to the number and general acceptability of the candidates and, no doubt, in response to other factors. For instance the percentage in 1953 seems low in comparison with that recorded in 1955; or, perhaps, it may be said that the percentage in the latter year is high when compared with that recorded in the former year. Likewise the percentage in the former year is low when compared with the percentage recorded in 1961 but the percentage recorded in the former year is higher than that recorded in 1964 which, in turn, is not unduly low when compared with the figures given for the first year mentioned. It was only in 1953 and 1964 that elections were held for the Senate alone; in the other years mentioned the Senate elections were held in conjunction with the election for the House of Representatives and this is suggested as one explanation for the disparity between the percentage of informal votes recorded, on the one hand, in the first and last years specified and, on the other, the percentages recorded in the intervening years. This may be so and, of course, there may have been other reasons but it is not for me to speculate. Consideration of the figures has, however, produced two firm impressions on my mind. The first is that, as I have already said, it is impossible, within any identifiable limits, to predicate that the number of informal votes at all Senate elections will conform to any recognizable standard or pattern and, secondly, that in seeking to attribute a significance to the variations in the percentages of informal votes recorded at the elections referred to in par. 5 one cannot overlook the fact that the 1953 and 1964 elections seem to be more truly comparable with one another than with the elections in the intervening years. In these circumstances I find it impossible to say that, having regard to the percentage of informal votes recorded at the election now in question, informal votes were admitted and counted or that it is probable that this occurred. That being so I am satisfied that the petition neither directly nor indirectly alleges any fact which would justify an order invalidating the return and directing a recount.