What happened after that---He - he went backwards, fell over the chair and landed on some weights in the corner of the room.
Okay. And then what happened? Well, what did you do---Well, without having time to get out of there, and I felt bad for what I'd done at Katrina's house - not that I could do much about it - he lunged straight at me.
Okay. And in what sort of motion? Can you describe what he------He's come straight at my throat with open hands - - -
Okay, you've------And grabbed my shirt, and I sort of tried to hold him off and try and grab his arms, keeping his face away from me, cos he's attacked me in the past. And then we've gone backwards and he had considerable force, because from where we were, I was the one that went backwards, and I ripped the back of my jacket on the - on the glass.
Okay---And we've fallen over and got back up and it was sort of a bit of a kerfuffle.
Okay. That kerfuffle, as you call it, how would you describe it---Well, we had - we were both straining, you could say, and both trying to I suppose - I suppose just get control of the situation and I was trying to get out of there, and then we knocked over a few things in the room.
Okay. Now,------We both landed quite heavily after we - after we come off the glass.
Okay. You came off - off the glass. Off the glass what---Off the window.
Okay. Well, how did you get over in the window---That's what I'm saying, it's a fair way from the computer table, across furniture to that wall, and I was basically shoved backwards.
Okay. So [the complainant], ... how was he holding you---?---Pretty much from arms forward, into here. And I think he had an arm, and - and we just basically went straight across. I think we fell over near the computer, and we got up and then we went into the glass.
SAUPIN, MR: For the transcript, Mr Raux, the witness described having two hands on what you might describe [as] the lapels---Yes.
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Where were your hands---I was trying to keep his shoulders back.
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So how did you end up in the window---I think I might have tripped back as I was coming back.
Well, without thinking, do you recall---I tripped on something and we went into the back window - into the side window of the house.
Okay. And then at that point, you both - at that window, what happened then---We both went down onto the couch and from there, he come at me and he bit me on the arm, right on here, and he bit me again right there.
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- - - where did that bite occur---One just below the elbow and then one on that wrist. And that's when I've got my left arm around underneath his chin, and tried to control him. And that was the only way I could control him.
Okay. When you were - when you both moved from the window to the lounge, what were the positions of the both of you---I was pretty much going backwards, towards the TV unit and then we fell down and we got up and then he give me one more almighty push and I went into the glass. I think he's tripped at the same time for him to go into the glass as well.
Okay. And at what point did you, as you say, did he bite you---?---As we come back down onto the lounge, he's come back at me and that's where I heard earlier that someone said I was actually hitting him. I wasn't because they wouldn't have been able to see from there. It was basically the fact that he bit me on the arm,
... so your evidence is he's bitten you on the arm and then what did you do---I - I struck him a little bit on the back of the head, just to try and get him off my arm, just more of a push, and then I got my arm underneath his chin and I held as tight as I could. So I could just not let - let him go and get attacked again.
Did you strike him in any other way---No, more of a push away. That was the only time and then I've followed it up the next day and got - had to go for tests.
Okay. Well, we'll get onto that. So how many times did you hit [the complainant]---Just the once.
And that was the once by the computer, is that right---That's correct.
And you said it was a glancing blow---Yes. That's correct.
Okay. Did you, at any other stage, punch [the complainant]---No.
Did you throw [the complainant] into the window---No.
Did you put a choker hold on [the complainant]---I did.
And why did you do that---Just to gain control and try and get out of there, which I [did].
... what can you recall about [the complainant's] demeanour after you put a choker hold on him---He - he - it settled him down. It was about the only - only thing I could do. It was the only thing I could think of to do.
What did you do then, Mr Raux---I put his face to the side while he was unconscious, onto his side, like a recovery position, and then I walked out of the room. I apologised to Katrina and Stonie as I was leaving and I hopped on the motorcycle and I left (ts 121 - 123).