A. Correct.
Q. You retained yourself the services of an architect to advise you in relation to what you might be able to do in relation to that property --
A. I did.
Q. --- didn't you?
A. Yes.
Q. You had discussions with that architect both on site at 774 New South Head Road and off site in relation to the manner in which that property had been constructed, correct?
A. I can't recall discussing the manner in which it had been built, this is filled in, the inside, but I can remember discussing with him what I would do with it, what I would like to do with it.
Q. Before the architect had been retained by you, you had made an estimate based on your knowledge of purchasing houses of how much you thought it might cost you do to it up, correct?
A. I don't recall that.
Q. You had estimated to yourself that it would cost in the order of $400,000 to $500,000 to put that property into a condition that you would be happy with to have it as your primary family residence?
A. I don't recall that.
Q. What estimate did you place on it?
A. I didn't, that's why I asked the architect to come and have a look at it.
Q. Should her Honour understand that answer to be as follows, you looked at the property, were not in a position to determine yourself its condition and what needed to be done, so you retained the services of an architect to obtain that architect's professional advice, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. That was something that you did in early 1996, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Your discussions with the architect in relation to Dr Ward's property continued up until you went to New York I think on 29 January 1996?
A. Correct.
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Q. Right, let's come back to that. You told her Honour before that the reason 774 didn't proceed was because Mr Diamond had given you advice relating to the building and structural problems in that home. That was your answer wasn't it?
A. That had not been approved by council.
Q. Yes. Is that a yes?
A. Yes.
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Q. You were very apprehensive about purchasing that property as a result of the conduct of certain of the real estate agents, correct?
A. I can remember the price jumping up from what I was offered it, so we didn't like that.
Q. You just - so that I am being fair to you, you had been advised of a price and you were happy to pay that price and then the price jumped, correct?
A. That's right.
Q. It went up to $1.3 million from around 1.15?
A. A million and fifty it was.
Q. A million and fifty. And you formed the view that Mr Billy Bridges, the Double Bay estate agent, was playing off both sides in relation to the negotiations, correct?
A. I wasn't dealing with Billy Bridges.
Q. You were dealing with his office, weren't you?
A. Marcia Roche --
Q. You were dealing with his office weren't you. W. Bridges and Co or whatever his firm is called?
A. Marcia Roche. There were several agents showing people. I just know who I was dealing with.
Q. And you were concerned about the discussions between the various agents in relation to price, weren't you?
A. The price was jumping around, yes.
Q. And you were also concerned about the things that the architect retained by you had told you in relation to the property, weren't you?
A. Well he had been to council.
A. Is the answer yes?
A. Yes.
Q. So that by the time the 2nd and 3rd March had come around, where were you living. Were you living in Rawson Street, Queens Park or had you moved in with your daughter, Charlotte?
A. Charlotte was living in Katoomba. I was living in her two bedroom apartment.
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A. A far cry from the premises that you were used to living in, correct?
A. A far cry from, but very nice just the same.
By the end of her negotiations in respect of 774 New South Head Road, Ms Burns [sic] was fully cognisant of the need to assess the structural aspects of a property purchase, and of the problems inherent in the lack of Council approval. Ms Berry did not rely upon the defendant solicitors to be told this in March 1996.
As discussed earlier, Ms Berry did testify that she had told her solicitor that she relied upon him in respect of the complications introduced by strata title. As discussed earlier, I do not accept that evidence, and it cast an adverse implication upon Ms Berry's credit. It is contradicted by Diamond Peisah & Co's letter of 16 April 1996 and Ms Berry's admission that she had been advised not to complete when she did.
The defendant [sic] submissions in this respect were cogent:
The plaintiff's case in relation to the first cause of action … stands or falls on 6 in my respectful submission. If … she doesn't get up on 6, she doesn't get up at all … Your Honour has no evidence of that [reliance] whatsoever. Reliance is an important issue in this case, that was made clear by me on the first day. There is no reliance evidence. My learned friend made some submissions on it. …
There is indeed no evidence of any reliance.
The cross-defendant put the point simply:
… you can't draw any inferences that she would have acted in any particular way when one has reference to her credit in the evidence on these proceedings. To draw an inference of reliance your Honour would have to be prepared to accept that if it had been put to her in the witness box she would have said yes, I was relying on the solicitors. But, your Honour, her evidence was unsatisfactory on a number of bases.
It does not seem to be appropriate to infer that which is of the essence of the plaintiff's case. Ms Berry was represented by competent counsel, but she did not testified [sic] to this effect (footnote 4). On one view at least, it would be contrary to the inference that flows from the inference that flows from [sic] Ms Berry's not having given such evidence when she testified (footnote 5).
I note in this respect the defendants' counsel's submission that:
should infer from the fact that she's happy to have this man do work for her on the house that he has just completed. … She's happy to enter into an agreement with him because she likes the way the house is being built, to do certain works.
We would say, that in those circumstances, there must be reliance evidence. There must also be evidence that she should would [sic] have accepted the advice to have another builder to come into her property which is still almost under construction by someone who she is happy to have work done for her and do a report on it. Covering over that of course, is the fact that the solicitors know that she's had an architect on the previous job. She's been on the 774. She's been on that site with that architect. She's relied on him to some extent, of course. Your Honour needs to put all of that together and the result of all of that is in my respectful submission, your Honour can't infer that she would have accepted the advice and your Honour can't infer that she would have done something - query what that is because that is yet another piece of evidence that's lacking in this case, had she received a report no matter what it said.
I do not infer that Ms Berry relied upon the defendant solicitors in any relevant respect. I found the only testimony that she gave in this respect to be untruthful. I find no relevant reliance." (footnotes noted but omitted)
37 The appellant submitted that so far as the trial judge took an adverse view of her credibility the basis exposed for her view was unsound.
38 As to the circumstances in which the appellant came to leave the property, it was said that the trial judge overlooked that the appellant had spent some time living on her boat before she went to Burradoo: thus, it was said, the state of the property could properly be seen as upsetting and destabilising. I do not think that met the trial judge's point, which was that the appellant attributed her going to live in the country and associated hardships to the state of the property when the true occasion for that change in her life was her association with her new partner.
39 As to the respondent's advice about title complexities, it was said that in truth the appellant had relied on the respondents. The respondent's letter of 16 April 1996 referred to the advice to settle only after registration of the strata plan, said that it had been discussed with the appellant, and included "We note however that there is an urgency with respect to settlement of this matter this week and after due discussion with you we have prepared a counter proposal to the Vendor's solicitors ….". It was said that the appellant had relied on the respondents in that she had not instructed them to proceed to settlement regardless of their advice, but had asked for a way around the problem of settlement prior to registration of the strata plan. Nonetheless, it is evident that the appellant wanted to proceed to settlement immediately, and to take a course less than the preferred course advised by the respondents - indeed, it is difficult to see that withholding $50,000 was a real safeguard against title difficulties. The trial judge was entitled to see inconsistency between always accepting the respondent's advice and what occurred in that instance.
40 The appellant then submitted that so far as the trial judge regarded the appellant as a person with independent appreciation of the need for a building report there was an inadequate basis for that view. Particularly in relation to the purchase of 774 New South Head Road, Rose Bay, it was said, there was a difference between obtaining architectural advice on the feasibility and cost of putting the house into a condition suitable for a family residence and obtaining a building report upon the soundness of a house. Again, I do not think that met the trial judge's point. The appellant obtained expert advice when necessary, without advice from the respondents or anyone else. The expert advice included checking for council approval. It was the result of the advice, plus concern about the price variation, which influenced the appellant, and not solely that the respondents advised against the purchase. And the appellant's independent action at this time, when taken with her experience in property transactions and business success, led to her being a person who was familiar with the desirability of a building report and attuned to obtaining expert advice of her own initiative. So the trial judge reasoned, and the evidence entitled her to do so.
41 In these circumstances there was particular significance in the absence of evidence from the appellant to the effect that, if the respondents had advised her to obtain a building report, she would have followed that advice and would not have purchased the property without a building report. (A further question would remain, that is, what would the building report have said and what would the appellant have done in the light of what it said, but that need not be addressed.) The trial judge was not prepared to infer, in the absence of the appellant's evidence to this effect, that the appellant would have followed advice to obtain a report if it had been given. The appellant submitted, referring to Rosenberg v Percival (2001) 178 ALR 577 at 582, that the trial judge had erroneously declined to infer from the objective facts what the appellant would have done.
42 Footnote 4 as noted in the second passage from the trial judge's reasons set out above cited Carr v Baker (1936) 36 SR (NSW) 301 per Jordan CJ at 306; Colfield v Waterloo Case Co Ltd (1924) 34 CLR 363 per Isaacs J at 374-377; and Bell v Thompson (1934) 34 SR (NSW) 431 per Jordan CJ at 436, with the extract, "It is not enough that the evidence affords material for conjecturing that the fact may exist, unless it furnishes data from which an inference can reasonably be drawn that it does exist". Footnote 5 cited Jones v Dunkel (1959) 101 CLR 298. I do not think the trial judge took an erroneous approach to her fact-finding in this respect. The trial judge was conscious that her inquiry required regard to matters other than direct evidence from the appellant of what she would have done; that was why the trial judge referred to (for example) the appellant's experience in property dealings. It was not essential that there be direct evidence from the appellant, see Gould v Vaggellas (1985) 157 CLR 215 at 236 and Huntsman Chemical Company Australia Ltd v International Pools Australia Ltd (1995) 36 NSWLR 242 at 244, 250, 263-9, but the trial judge did not say that it was. As part of ordinary reasoning when the appellant was experienced in property dealings and had been greatly attracted to the property and moved to purchase it in haste, the absence of direct evidence that she would have been held back by advice to obtain a building report enabled the conclusion that the objective evidence did not warrant the inference that she would have followed the advice to be more comfortably drawn. That, in my view, is how the trial judge reasoned, and there was no error.
43 In my opinion, it was open to the trial judge to find that the appellant did not relevantly rely on the respondents, meaning that advice to obtain a building report would have been otiose and the appellant would have gone ahead anyway. I am not persuaded that the finding was infected by error and should be overturned. The threshold finding remains, and is fatal to causation of loss or damage.