Bendigo and Adelaide Bank v Stamatis
[2014] NSWSC 1233
At a glance
Source factsCourt
Supreme Court of NSW
Decision date
2014-09-16
Before
Hulme AJ, Dunford J
Catchwords
- RI Bellamy (Plaintiff/Cross Defendant) JK Taylor
Source
Original judgment source is linked above.
Catchwords
Judgment (10 paragraphs)
Judgment 1Since about 1982 the Defendants in these proceedings have been the registered proprietors of the land contained in folio identifier 7/14848 and known as 88 Bruce St, Brighton-le-Sands. 2Registered against the title is a mortgage AA277559 in favour of Adelaide Bank Limited dated 11 December 2003. It is common ground that the Plaintiff in these proceedings is a successor in title to the Adelaide Bank Ltd pursuant to the Financial Sector (Business Transfer and Group Restructure) Act 1999 (Cth). The Plaintiff asserts that there has been default under that mortgage and an associated loan agreement or agreements and seeks to enforce the mortgage (and a registered Memorandum referred to in it) and/or obtain damages and/or compensation. 3The Plaintiff's claims are opposed. The principal bases of opposition set out in a Defence and a Cross Claim are:
- The Defendants never entered into any relevant loan agreement,
- The Defendants did not receive the moneys advanced by the Plaintiff,
- The documents on which the Plaintiff relies are the product of its conduct which is unconscionable under the general law or the Australian Securities and Investment Commission Act (Cth) 2001,
- The documents on which the Plaintiff relies are the product of undue influence of which the Plaintiff should not be entitled to receive the benefit,
- The Contracts Review Act 1980 (NSW),
- The Consumer Credit (NSW) Code 1995, and
- The Trade Practices Act 1974 (Cth) 4The Defendants further contend that any liability they may have is an apportionable claim under the Civil Liability Act 2002 (NSW) and that a number of other persons who were involved in the transactions are concurrent wrongdoers. Persons said to answer this description are Combined Home Loans Pty Ltd, Asset Conveyancing Enterprises, Paul Kemp, Krystal Grant, Michael Abboud, Adelaide Bank Limited, Bendigo and Adelaide Bank Limited, Cuir Pty Ltd and Constantinos Stamatis. With the exception of Constantinos Stamatis, the individuals named were employees of Combined Home Loans Pty Ltd. 5In addition to challenging these grounds, the Plaintiff contends: That the Defendants' son Constantinos had the actual or ostensible authority from the Defendants to enter into the transactions, (a claim of ostensible authority was abandoned) Alternatively the Defendants ratified the actions of Con (as it will hereafter be convenient to refer to this person) or acquiesced in them The Defendants are estopped from denying their liability The Defendants engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct and The Plaintiff is subrogated to rights the National Australia Bank had over the property under a mortgage that was discharged with funds provided by the Plaintiff. 6Oversimplified, the circumstances and the transactions that have led to this litigation are as follows. 7The Defendants' son Con needed money to assist in the purchase of an industrial unit that a company he and a business partner owned, Cuir Pty Ltd, had agreed to buy. His own attempts to obtain those funds had failed. 8His parents owned a home which was subject to a mortgage to the National Australia Bank but on which only some $60,000 was owing. 9Through Combined Home Loans Pty Ltd (hereinafter referred to as "CHL") Con arranged to borrow $380,000 on the security of his parents' home. When it was realised that this sum was not sufficient to both discharge the NAB mortgage and provide for Con's needs, a new arrangement was made whereby $440,000 would be borrowed. This arrangement was implemented, the $440,000 obtained, the NAB mortgage discharged, and one in favour of the Plaintiff given. 10Some eight or so months later, the loan was split into two parts, $44,000 and the balance. 11As incidents of these arrangements numerous documents were executed, some by Con forging his parents' signatures and some by the Defendants themselves albeit in circumstances where, according to their case, they did not realise what they were doing. In that connection reliance is placed on evidence that the Defendants were born in Greece, had limited education and have some difficulty in understanding English, particularly in legal or complex documents, and evidence that Con, who lived with them, effectively was able to exercise control over what documents they saw during the making and implementation of the arrangements and subsequently, and over the Defendants' knowledge and understanding of them. 12The primary case made on behalf of the Plaintiff is that the Defendants were not, and could not have been, as ignorant as they claim and authorised or ratified Con's actions. Resolution of the issues requires close attention to many documents and the circumstances surrounding them. 13A Court Book, filed pursuant to a consent order of 23 July 2013, consists of five large lever arch files. These contain copies of most of the documents but there are many hundreds of pages in addition, albeit many are complete or incomplete copies. To a significant degree the documents were not in chronological order and there were numerous copies of some. Fax dates on the top of some documents provide some assistance in dating the documents but they are not infrequently incomplete or inadequately photocopied or do not contain sufficient information to demonstrate when the document first came into existence. 14It should also be mentioned that virtually all of the documents are photocopies or faxed reproductions. Not all copies seem to be identical, e.g. the document commencing at Court Book pages 85 and 298, and the form of the documents meant that there was less certainty in the opinions of two handwriting experts than might otherwise have been the case. There were less significant reasons for other lack of conviction on the part of one or both but that said, there was such a measure of agreement between those experts that I feel entitled to accept the opinions expressed in their joint report without, and in at least most cases without even referring to, the qualifications they expressed. At times their evidence was contradicted by evidence from those alleged to have signed the documents and while I have taken that into account, on almost all occasions where there has been a conflict I have preferred the evidence of one or both experts. 15For the Plaintiff, a number of persons who were, or had been bank employees gave evidence. Their evidence was not contentious. There was the expert handwriting evidence which, as I have indicated, was not the subject of controversy. The Defendants and their sons Con and George gave evidence. No one from CHL was called and nor was there any explanation for their absence. Not called either was anyone from Asset Conveyancing Enterprises or a solicitor who was said to have given advice in 2009 to Mr Stamatis. 16CHL's role was an originator and manager of mortgages for Adelaide Bank Limited. In that regard an agreement had been entered into on 29 September 2001. At some stage its mortgage management books were purchased by another entity, Australian Mortgage Options. 17In more detail the history of events is as follows. In June 2003 Cuir Pty Ltd, a company through which Con and a John Saffioti conducted a leather finishing and furniture business, contracted to purchase an industrial property in Miranda. It would seem that the property was bought, either off-the-plan or at least in an incomplete state. 18At or about this time Con owned an apartment at Dulwich Hill in respect of which he owed some $150,000 secured by mortgage. In about October 2003 he had also bought a townhouse in West Wollongong in respect of which he borrowed a further $276,000. In late 2003 he transferred ownership of the Dulwich Hill property to his brother George. 19Whether because of the commitments to which I have referred or otherwise, Con and Mr Saffioti found themselves unable to raise the money, some $380,000, needed to complete the purchase of the Miranda property. Con applied to CHL for accommodation. Not long before settlement was due, Michael Abboud of CHL told Con his loan application had been refused and recommended that Con find equity from anywhere. On 22 October 2003 the solicitors for the vendor of the Miranda unit, Tress Cocks and Maddox, wrote advising that settlement was due within 21 days. In due course that time was extended but there is no doubt that in late 2003 Con was under considerable pressure to obtain funds. 20The first document of major significance and bearing date 5 November 2003 is a "Property Loan Application" on the letterhead of CHL. Copies, some incomplete and some with an additional page - e.g. CB 87 - are to be found at CB 85, CB 298 and a number of copies in Exhibit 4 (where the totality of pages, not in order, can be found). The document seems to have been sent (to CHL) from "Fabric Services JHD fax number 61 2 6277 XXXX" on 6 November 2003 and consisted of four pages including a Fax Cover Sheet bearing a CHL letterhead - see Exhibit 3. Fax notations on the top suggest that the document, possibly in blank form, was first sent on 30 October 2003 by CHL, then being a five-page fax, bearing number 384. 21The number 61 2 6277 XXXX is a Canberra number. Although the questioning was not as clear as it might have been it seems likely that at some time Con was working in Canberra and it would seem that this was so on 6 November. The document seems to have been followed by another fax to CHL less than a minute later constituted by a copy of a letter of 7 July 2003 from Tress Cocks & Maddox relating to the purchase by Cuir Pty Limited. 22In the Application document the Defendants, each described as "Individual Borrower/Guarantor" purported to seek a loan in an amount of $380,000 payable as to principal and interest over a term of 30 years. Mr Aristides is described as a taxi driver with a gross income of $60,000 per annum. Mrs Aristides is described as a "Partner" with an income in the same amount. The document indicates that the Defendants had no significant assets except their home which was proposed as security and which was said to have a value of $800,000. There was said to be an existing mortgage to NAB in an amount of $60,000. Mrs Aristides is nominated as the "contact for access". In the section entitled "Loan Purpose", the words "Future Investment Purposes" have been written. Interlined at some stage in the section "Loan Summary" someone has written "Lo Doc @ 7.5%". 23The expert handwriting evidence is that the signatures purporting to be those of the Defendants on this document are forged and I am satisfied this was done by Con. The joint handwriting report is to that effect and Con gave similar evidence. 24Con agreed that he had written a deal of the information contained on the form but denied having written significant parts of it. Words he denied writing included those I have underlined in the following extracts from the form: In the section relating to his father, "Time there 30 years", "Gross Income $60,000 pa", "Previous employer N/A"; In the section relating to his mother, "Occupation Partner", "Employer Self employed", "Phone XXXX XXXX" where secondly appearing, "Time there 30 years", Gross Income $60,000 pa"; On the second page, "future investment purposes" and "Lo Doc @ 7.5%" is not in his handwriting as are at least 2, but not all, of the 4 times the loan amount of $380,000 appears. 25I accept this evidence. Relevant in this connection is the extent to which Con was willing to admit forgery and the absence of any apparent reason for him to admit to writing some, and deny writing the particular other, parts of the document and my overall view of Con's credibility. 26Con also said that, having obtained the relevant documents without asking his parents for them, he provided copies of his father's driver's licence and mother's passport to CHL. It is not apparent when this occurred but copies were provided by CHL to Galilee and Associates on 19 November 2003. Galilee and Associates was a firm of solicitors who acted for the Plaintiff in settling the loan transaction and obtaining the mortgage. 27Con gave evidence that he believes he also provided his parents' tax returns. That he was asked to do so derives some support from a handwritten note "Two years tax returns" and "6 month statements NAB" written by Con on a fax cover sheet on the letterhead of CHL from Krystal Grant and dated 30 October 2003. That he sent the returns derives support from what appears to be a handwritten fax note in the CHL file, Exhibit 3, the body of which reads, "Re 2003 + 2002 income Tax Returns for Aris & Maria Stamatis". The document bears a fax date of 5 November 2003 but given that the document is not an original, there are a number of possible explanations as to how it came to be there and I am not certain that that is the date when it was sent. Be that as it may, and despite some inconsistencies to which I refer below, in the result the probability is that such returns were sent. 28During the course of challenge to evidence he gave to the effect that he had not come to some arrangement with his father for the family home to be used as security for a loan for his benefit, Con's attention was drawn to the fact that he had inserted the family phone number and his father's mobile number in the Property Loan Application, nominated in it an accountant who he knew had a close relationship with his father, and had nominated his mother as the "contact for Access" to enable a valuer to view the property. I accept his response to these questions and the matters relied on do not lead me to the conclusion that there was any such arrangement with his parents, as distinct from what I may refer to as preliminary discussions and about which I say more below. Relevant to this conclusion is my finding, recorded below, that the Defendants did agree to a mortgage to the Adelaide Bank being substituted for one they had previously granted in favour of the National Australia Bank. 29The evidence suggesting that the Property Loan Application was sent from Canberra is inconsistent with evidence Con gave to the effect that on the same day as he was informed that his own loan application was refused, he had a spare CHL application form in his possession at the factory in Penshurst, filled it out and faxed it to Michael Abboud that day. His being in Canberra would also have created logistical difficulties or delay in obtaining his parents' tax returns. However, he was not cross-examined on these inconsistencies. It is unsurprising that over 10 years on, some of the non-essential details might not have been accurately remembered and I do not regard the inconsistencies as casting doubt on the substance of Con's evidence. 30Another document that came into existence at about this time was one entitled "Privacy Consent Annexure". Copies seem to have the fax notation, or partial notation "services JHD", suggesting they may have accompanied the Property Loan Application. The handwriting experts said that there was "evidence supportive" of the conclusion that Mr Stamatis had signed his name but that Mrs Stamatis' signature had been written by Con. Con could not say whether his parents had signed that document but said that they did not do so on the day the Property Loan Application was signed. Given the surrounding circumstances, that there seems no reason why only one of the Defendants should have signed this document, and the far stronger evidence in respect of other documents signed at the time, I am not prepared to conclude that either of the Defendants signed this document. 31Dated 6 November 2003 and purporting to have been signed by the Defendants was a document entitled "LO DOC LOAN", "LO DOC DECLARATION OF FINANCIAL POSITION". The document contains a statement that the loan amount is $380,000. As printed, the document contains a number of representations and warranties and beside the reference to income there has been handwritten for each of the Defendants, "60,000". The third line of the document reads, "This declaration must be completed and signed by ALL borrowers". It is not clear what otherwise its province was. The handwriting evidence indicates the Defendants did not sign it and Con said that he forged his parents' signatures. He said however, and I accept, that the body of the document is not in his handwriting. 32The document bears attention for other reasons. Dated 6 November, one would infer it was not signed at the time the Property Loan Application was. Furthermore none of the copies in evidence show any indication they were faxed from Canberra and it thus provides an indication that Con may have been in Sydney for at least some part of 6 November and/or the next few days. The presence of the document in Exhibit 4 and fax notes on that copy indicate it was faxed from CHL to the Plaintiff on 10 November 2003. It is possible it came into existence as a reflection of the note "Lo Doc @ 7.5%" on the Property Loan Application but there is no direct evidence to that effect. 33Exhibit 4 was identified by Candece Nicholls as the documents that would contain the information used in assessing a loan application. It formed part of the Bank's credit assessment file. 34A fax cover sheet and fax pagination and copies of them in Exhibit 4 indicate that a copy of the Loan Application, the "Privacy Consent Annexure", the "Lo Doc Loan" document, and some other documents were faxed by Paul Kemp of CHL to Adelaide Bank on 10 November 2003 in order for the application to be assessed. 35The following document in Exhibit 4 dated 11 November 2003 says that the loan facility for $380,000 has been "Conditionally Approved subject to the following requirements: (1) Valuation Acceptable to ABL (2) 100 Point I/D for each" 36On a copy apparently sent to CHL someone has added to the first of these notes, "Attached" and to the second, "At Settlement". 37On 11 November 2003, the property at 88 Bruce St was valued by DTS Property Services Pty Ltd and the valuation faxed to CHL. Exhibit 4 indicates that a copy of the valuation was faxed to the Bank. 38Contained in Exhibit 4 is another "Formal Approval" made by another of the Plaintiff's assessors, Tammie, on 13 November 2003 which, without the inclusion of the word "conditionally" says that, "The above loan facility has been formally approved. 100 pt verification at settlement". 39On 17 November CHL wrote to Galilee and Associates in terms: Please act on the lenders behalf in prepare the appropriate Mortgage Documentation to secure the loan facilities, effecting final settlement, stamping and registration of the relevant security(ies). 40There followed particulars of the proposed borrowers, loan details, security and a copy of the Property Loan Application and the 13 November 2003 Formal Approval. 41On 20 November 2003 Galilee & Associates, solicitors, wrote to the Defendants at their home address advising that the firm acted for Adelaide Bank Limited and CHL and enclosed a dozen or so documents. The letter said that the documents were required to be returned, presumably after they were signed. The letter set out a calculation of the amount likely available on settlement, the calculation commencing with the figure of $380,000. The documents enclosed were listed as: 1. Housing Loan Contract dated 14 November 2003 (together with a copy for you to keep) 2. Memorandum of Mortgage (together with a copy for you to keep) 3. Authority to Date and pay Advance 4. Memorandum of Costs and Disbursements 5. Memorandum of Common Provisions Reg. No. 2469542 6. Direct Debit form; Please retain booklet 7. List of approved Insurers 8. Borrowers Certificate. Please note that should you not obtain legal advice, you will be required to sign the enclosed certificate, where indicated; 9. Declaration by Borrower. Please note that if the borrower obtains legal advice, you will be required to sign the enclosed certificate, where indicated; 10. Warranty relating to the property; 11. Office of State Revenue Declaration for use if you wish to apply for full or partial exemption of stamp duty. ... 12. ... letter together with a Discharge Authority addressed to National Australia Bank Limited ... 13. Direction to pay 42The expert handwriting evidence is to the effect that the Defendants signed documents answering the description of those numbered 3, 6, 8 and 10. Document 11 contains two signatures purporting to be by each of the Defendants. The lower ones, which have been crossed out, would seem to have been made in the wrong place. The expert handwriting evidence is to the effect that the lower ones are probably genuine but the upper ones were forged by Con. 43It may be inferred that the mortgage referred to in the letter is that which acquired the number AA277559S and is dated 11 December 2003. The expert handwriting evidence is that the signatures to this document purporting to be those of the Defendants are genuine. 44Con was taken to the signatures on these and other documents apparently signed about the same time. Looking at them, he was uncertain whether he had written some of the signatures but was definite that his writing appears on at least the "Direct Debit Request" (the terms of which authorise the Plaintiff to arrange for funds to be debited against an account in the name of Cuir P/L for the benefit of a loan or account number 0037052677 YX 01). I accept this last mentioned evidence. To the extent to which his evidence in respect of the signature to these (and other) documents differs from that of the handwriting experts I reject it but I do not regard the difference as reflecting on his general credibility. 45I infer the "Housing Loan Contract dated 14 November 2003" referred to in Galilee and Associates' letter is a document entitled "Home Loan Contract" and which on the first page records that the information in it is current as at 14 November 2003. It takes the form of an offer by the Bank and acceptance by the customer and also records that the amount of credit is $380,000. A short distance above that, perhaps in verification of a change in the first name of Mr Stamatis, signatures purporting to be those of the Defendants appear. Further signatures appear on the fifth and eighth pages, in the case of the last mentioned immediately adjacent to dates of 23 November 2003. On the fifth page, a quarter or a third of the page below the signatures the words "REFIN BANK OR OTHER" and "INVESTMENT PURCHASE" have been typed in beside the printed words, "Purpose of Loan". 46The expert handwriting evidence is that all of those signatures are genuine. 47However the area of the Form entitled "Offer from Adelaide Bank Limited" and which contemplates signature on behalf of the Plaintiff by "Karl Damien Combined Home Loans Pty Ltd" is blank and on the first page of the document someone has drawn a line running diagonally through it. In a copy of a summary or settlement sheet relating to the proposed loan of $380,000 contained in Exhibit 4 there is a very obvious red line inserted diagonally across the page. 48On 25 November Galilee and Associates wrote to the Defendants acknowledging receipt of (most of) the "mortgage documents". On 4 December 2003, Asset Conveyancing Enterprises wrote to Galilee & Associates advising that the firm acted for the Defendants who were described as mortgagors and inquiring if anything was outstanding. 49This seems to have been the first involvement of Asset Conveyancing Enterprises in events. The evidence did not reveal how that organisation came to be instructed. It had the same address as CHL, viz. Suite 12, 170 George St, Liverpool and in 2003 the same fax number. Con said that he had never attended with his parents to meet anyone from that organisation but said that he could not recall whether he himself had met anyone from there. 50Also on 4 December 2003 Michael Abboud sent a fax, apparently to the Plaintiff, for a copy of the fax is in Exhibit 4. The first two pages indicate what purports to have been a request on behalf of the Defendants for an increase in the loan from $380,000 to $440,000. The third page is another copy of the document dated 6 November 2003 and headed "Lo Doc Loan" save and except for the fact that in the description of the loan amount, the figure of 380 has been crossed out and "440" written in and apparently initialled. As has been said, the handwriting evidence indicates that the Defendants did not sign this document in its original form. Con said that he did but that the body of the document is not in his handwriting. 51The initials adjacent to the "440" are very small. The handwriting experts did not comment on them and when asked if he had written them Con said they weren't really legible - a proposition with which it is hard to disagree. The fourth page of the fax has no present relevance. It details a number of fees that have to be paid and mentions also the NAB. 52Con gave evidence that the request to increase the loan amount was inspired by conversation between himself and CHL wherein the latter informed Con that another $60,000 was needed. CHL may have come to this realisation in consequence of conversation with Mr Xuereb of Tress Cocks and Maddox. Michael Abboud of CHL said that they could take care of it and in due course another bundle of paperwork arrived that Con said needed signing. 53Included in Exhibit 4 is a document dated 5 December 2003 and entitled "Formal Approval". It is addressed to Michael at CHL and advises that the loan facility for $440,000 has been formally approved. The document bears the name of Candece Nicholls, described as "Assessor" for the Adelaide Bank and also bears the notation, "100 points of ID required prior to settlement". 54A letter from Galilee and Associates of 8 December 2003 addressed to Asset Conveyancing Enterprises is relied on. The letter reads, inter alia, We refer to our letter to you dated 25 November, 2003 and now enclose herewith amended Housing Loan Contract dated 5 December, 2003. Would you please disregard the previous Housing Loan Contract dated 14 November, 2003 replace it with the attached Loan Contracts. (sic) Please note that before we are able to proceed with settlement of this matter, we shall require from you the following: 1. Amended Loan Contracts (sic) dated 5 December, 2003 for the new loan amount of $440,000 2. ... 3. Authority to Date and pay Advance ... 55The terms of the letter tend to confirm that all or most of the documents forwarded with the earlier Home Loan Contract must have been returned. 56(Strictly, the Loan Contracts do not seem to have been "dated" as stated in the letter. Neither do the dates accord with those inserted on the first page beside the statement, "The information in this contract is current as at ...".) 57The "Amended Housing Loan Contract" is in broadly the same format as the earlier one. On the first page it is stated that the information in it is current as at 5 December 2003 and in the case of this document the Offer section purports to be signed by a solicitor on behalf of the Plaintiff on 5 December 2003. The amount of credit is stated to be $440,000. The document also states as the "Purpose of Loan", "Refin bank or other" and "Investment Purchase". 58This document purports to be signed by the Defendants on 8 December 2003 but the handwriting evidence indicates this document was not signed by the Defendants but by Con. He gave evidence to the same effect. 59On 11 December 2003 settlement of the loan arrangement occurred. The Adelaide Bank provided $439,940 and the principal disbursement of this money was by payment of $57,217.10 to the NAB and $377,821.88 to St George Bank. A statement of the loan account shows there was in addition a $60 fee. 60By letters dated 11 December 2003, CHL wrote to each of the Defendants at their home advising that settlement of their loan had occurred on that day. At the bottom of each letter was a Loan Summary showing that the loan balance was $440,000 and monthly repayments were $3,153. Regular repayments followed. 61On 25 August 2004, CHL sent a fax to Adelaide Bank Limited forwarding a "Product Conversion" application. The effect of this document was to seek that $440,000 of the existing loan would be the subject of separate arrangements. According to the handwriting evidence the request form was signed by the Defendants. 62The request was approved on the basis that the existing loan would be reduced accordingly. 63There followed a further Home Loan Contract relating to the sum of $44,000 which in its terms was formed by an offer made by CHL on behalf of Adelaide Bank Limited on 26 August 2004 and signed by the Defendants apparently on 14 September 2004. There are some particular terms of this document that are relied on by the Bank in support of its claim of ratification but these can conveniently be left for the moment. 64Also dated 14 September 2004 are a "Mortgage Acknowledgement" and an "Authority" (contained in a document entitled "Regular Payments Application to Transfer Funds") directed to the Adelaide Bank to make monthly payments in an unstated amount to a specified NAB account. (It would appear that the wrong part of this form was filled in.) Both of these documents were, according to the handwriting evidence, also signed by the Defendants. When asked about the signatures Con said that he could not recall whether he had written them or caused his parents to sign. He said that he did what he had to do to get the paperwork done. 65On 14 October CHL wrote to each of the Defendants at 88 Bruce St, Brighton-Le-Sands informing them of settlement of this $44,000 transaction, numbered 0037052677YX02, and that monthly repayments would be $336.00. On 20 October CHL wrote again to the Defendants, this time "C:/KonStamatis" advising that settlement of "your Home Loan 0037052677YX01" had occurred. That number was for the $440,000 loan. 66Con gave evidence to the effect that he had orchestrated this Product Conversion request because after the $440,000 loan the statements coming from the bank reflected that loan. The repayments of it were being made by Cuir Pty Ltd and no money was coming out of his father's account. To avoid arousing suspicion at home it was necessary to separate the loans as should have occurred originally - one for $40-50,000 or, as Con mentioned in another answer, "60", and one for (the benefit of) Cuir Pty Ltd. Mr Stamatis gave evidence that he had noticed the absence of mortgage payments and asked Con who was making them. 67During the currency of the $440,000 and $44,000 loans there were statements sent six monthly setting out transactions on the accounts and addressed either to Maria Stamatis or to Aristides and Maria Stamatis at 88 Bruce St, Brighton-le-Sands. There may have been a limited number of other letters referring to changes in interest rates. 68From at least January 2004 to January 2006 regular weekly payments, and one or two others, were credited to the $440,000 loan account. There were payments of $7,200 and $10,000 in February and June 2006 respectively, the latter apparently by Mr A Saffioti, but otherwise until September 2007 there were no amounts paid to the credit of the account. During this period regular payments were also being made in respect of the $44,000 loan. 69By 19 September 2007 the $440,000 account, but not the $44,000 account, was in arrears. On that day there was a conversation between Ms Tilling of the Bank and Mr Stamatis. He was in his taxi and reception was poor. A file note in Exhibit 5 dated 20 September 2007 made by Ms Tilling, refers to a phone call, inspired by the customer being in arrears, from her to "customer". The note continues: Customer claims he never received funds for this loan; We gave funds to "someone else". Asked for copy of application form and contract. ... Has another loan for $41K which is being maintained, ... 70The note goes on to record that a copy of the Application Form and Contract were then posted to the customer. Ms Tilling did this using the letterhead of Australian Mortgage Options, referring to the fact that the Loan 0037052677 YX01 was in arrears, observing that payments of $7,200 and $10,000 had been made on 6 February 2006 and 7 June 2006 respectively but nothing since and enclosing a copy of the application form and contract. She used AMO letterhead because, in her words, they "were the originator, they were the first contact for the customers". Con said that he received this letter and did not show it to his parents. 71Ms Tilling was cross-examined, in the course of which she was asked if it was possible that what had been said by Mr Stamatis was that the bank "must have given the money to someone else". Ms Tilling accepted that she had been paraphrasing but adhered to the terms of the note. 72She also said that in the note she had done her best to accurately record the terms of her conversation with Mr Stamatis. The note contains no reference to her having told him the amount of the loan but her evidence was that she would have done so. On a proper understanding of his evidence, Mr Stamatis denies that she did. 73Resolution of this issue is not easy. Ms Tilling was giving evidence of one of what almost certainly were hundreds or thousands of conversations chasing up defaulting customers and in this case of a conversation that occurred over six years ago. Her oral account differs from the document she said accurately recorded the terms of the conversation. For reasons referred to below, I have serious reservations about Mr Stamatis' credibility although supporting his account is the fact that he seems to have done nothing at that time when, if he had been told that he owed something of the order of $400,000, it is in the highest degree likely that there would have been some significant reaction. In the result, I do not know. I am simply not persuaded that he was told of the amount of the loan. 74Mr Stamatis' remarks were obviously a cause of concern to the Bank. A file note of the following day prepared by a Ms Croucher in a "Financial Crimes" section of the Bank shows that the Bank immediately set about some investigations. The file note makes apparent that there was great attention given to the topic of signatures and it was noted, inter alia, that in the case of the file ending in YX01, "MS's signatures don't match ID provided 21/09/2007" and that "Signatures for both applicants differ throughout both files". 75The note recorded the disposition of the $440,000 loan. Steps were put in train to trace further the payment to St George Bank. A memo of 19 October 2007 to Ms Croucher says that that cheque was banked to an account in the name of Bonar Pty Ltd. Documents reveal that on 11 December 2003 a mortgage by Bonar Pty Ltd in favour of St George Bank Ltd over the Miranda property was discharged and Bonar Pty Ltd transferred that property to Con and Mr Saffioti, the price being $358,750. 76The evidence does not reveal that the Bank took any further steps at that time. Indeed the lack of evidence suggests the Bank did nothing. A file note of 29 November 2010 records: Prev notes from 2007 mention fraud issue however don't adv outcome of this 77Regular weekly payments in respect of the $44,000 loan continued. As at 14 April 2009 the balance owing was $40,885.53. By 2 July 2009 the balance had been reduced to nil principally by the following payments: 16 April 2009 $5,000 17 April 2009 $5,000 18 April 2009 $1,701.88 2 July 2009 $28,988.89