[34] In 2010, the New South Wales Court of Appeal, although only in an obiter way, considered estoppel and privity in the context of shareholding and directorships. It is of interest to note that Handley AJA, one of the authors of the above text, gave separate reasons in which he expressed the view that he would have preferred to leave the relevant questions until they arose for decision in some other case but that, since dicta had already been offered, felt compelled to add his own observations: see Champerslife Pty Ltd v Manojlovski & Anor [2010] NSWCA 33 at [102]- [103]. It must also be remarked that what was under consideration was not any issue of indemnifier's exception but rather what was called the application of the Anshun doctrine, derived from the reasons of Gibbs CJ, Mason and Aickin JJ in Port of Melbourne Authority v Anshun Pty Ltd [1981] HCA 45; (1981) 147 CLR 589. Allsop P made brief observations on the topic, limiting them to the proposition that, in an appropriate case (which might be thought to be unusual), it might be that X, which was not a party to litigation to which Y was a party, could, by the operation of the Anshun doctrine, be prevented from bringing a case that Y, if it controlled X, could have caused X to bring in earlier proceedings: at [5]. Giles JA was more expansive. In particular, he observed that the fact that a person was the sole director and shareholder of a company did not give rise to privity of interest in the sense considered by the High Court in Ramsay v Pigram [1968] HCA 34; (1968) 118 CLR 271: at [64]. He further observed that while a person could be sole director and shareholder and the relevant company could be described as an alter ego, the company had its separate identity, relying upon the way the matter was put by Keane J, with the agreement of O'Flaherty and Murphy JJ, in Belton v Carlow County Council (1987) 1 IR 172 at 181: at [68]. The reasons of Keane J referred to the settled law since the decision in Salomon v Salomon [1896] UKHL 1; [1897] AC 22 that the company on the one hand and its shareholders on the other hand are separate and distinct legal entities, and that while the interests of the company and its controlling shareholders may often coincide, that is not always the case. Yet Giles JA noted that this did not deny that the fact that a person controls a company and can cause it to act in a particular way may be a consideration as to whether the company is Anshun estopped: at [69].